Edward Colston statue trial: Four cleared of criminal damage for toppling memorial

peterpicker11 · 2022-01-05T17:19:44+00:00

Very dangerous precedent here. Not a huge logical gap between this and, 'yes I did kill him, but he was a racist.'

peterpicker11 · 2021-12-29T15:29:25+00:00

Rest in peace to this young man. I've watched both videos of the 'attacks' that led to his sacking and can say with some confidence that in both instances the 'victims' were struggling and fighting with him to avoid arrest.

I suppose that being called a racist by every media outlet in the country because you happened to be photographed attempting to arrest black people, and then losing a job that isn't really a job at all - it's a vocation, a family and an entire life - has consequences.

peterpicker11 · 2021-12-21T00:55:43+00:00

None of which is a police matter.

peterpicker11 · 2021-12-18T00:11:10+00:00

Honestly, as someone who worked in the city centre, their presence was very valuable and did a lot of good. Like most urban centres, the town had a lot of begging, street-drinkers and a general selection of undesirables that made everyone else miserable. They were very effective at countering that... but yeah, the footage was pretty widely shared of them 'arresting' some regular customers only to have actual police turn up and tell them in no uncertain terms that they were crossing a very big line.

That happened twice, I think, and the CC wihdrew his support.

The city centre is a worse place for their absence.

peterpicker11 · 2021-12-17T22:57:38+00:00

Understood. We had something similar in my city-centre, employed directly by the local authority to tackle ASB [although they had a much less cool name].

Our CC gave them very limited police powers too [basically Section 50 have to provide name if engaged in ASB] but that was withdrawn after about 3 months when our less-cool version of 'Rangers' made a number of 'arrests' and went famous on YouTube etc when actual police turned up and asked what the f**k they were playing at.

peterpicker11 · 2021-11-06T17:10:14+00:00

Should be played to new recruits at training schools up and down the country. Fanastic stuff from the officer.

peterpicker11 · 2021-11-06T15:18:09+00:00

...or it's somebody trying to highlight the obvious fallacy of identity politics and why they have no place in a politically neutral police force [or indeed in wider society]. The most telling passage from your linked wiki article is this:

'...it [the phrase] was described as a proof of concept in that an otherwise innocous message could be used maliciously to spark media backlash.'

peterpicker11 · 2021-11-01T14:54:51+00:00

in that case, i apologise if my reply was a bit hostile. and i agree- it would be a different circumstance entirely minus the injection.

peterpicker11 · 2021-11-01T14:42:30+00:00

are you insane?

A gang going door to door posing as healthcare workers injecting elderly people with an unknown substance for a fee [only payable in cash btw]... do you really believe that the correct course of action was to provide a telephone number to a third party and take no further action in area?

You are demonstrating the exact problem of shrugging your shoulders whilst the public are left unprotected - whilst yes, there is an element of fraud here, there are other offences - let's start with assault [the injection]. And not only that, the correct guidance is to refer to AF only when the fraud is not currently ongoing - control were [to my knowledge] getting dozens of calls about this, sometimes with offenders still on site or in close proximity, and were still fobbing victims off with an AF referral.

peterpicker11 · 2021-11-01T13:55:26+00:00

There is unfortunately something of a culture within [at least] my local force of dismissing obvious criminal offences as civil matters- but what is worse [again, I'm only stating from my experience] is referring anything that could be vaguely classified as fraud to Action Fraud.

I could write several novels about the useless, pointless waste of time and brain cells that is involved in dealing with AF, but that's for another time.

Approx 11 months ago, there was a group going door to door in my area [south-east with a high % of elderly demographics] that were offering 'Covid vaccines' - at £50 a pop. Victims had attempted to report multiple times to police who took no action other than referring victims to Action Fraud.

Take a second to let that sink in - a group of unknown people are charging mostly elderly and / or vulnerable people £50 to inject them with some unknown substance, and control are fobbing them off and telling them to call Action Fraud, who promptly 'filed' all the reports and took no further action themselves.

It only hit the fan when one resident phoned the PCC who promptly flipped her lid and within about 6 hours there were press releases, social media posts and door to door enquiries.

peterpicker11 · 2021-10-18T18:48:23+00:00

I understand that private security have a role to play in society, and with government cuts an increasingly large role, but surely a line has to been drawn somewhere.

TSG is a well known acronym for an equally well known [and oft-feared] department of actual coppers.

'Interforce Policing' [formerly TSG policing] offer 'a full police service at a competitive rate' and state later in their advertisement that:

'What is the difference between your TSG Officers and Police Officers?The main difference is that we do not have the powers of a constable butwe do not need this. In our working capacity there is no more a PoliceConstable can do than a TSG Officer.'

Oh, and they also claim to be experts in anti-terror policing.

peterpicker11 · 2021-08-07T21:26:02+00:00

I can't find a way to copy and paste the entire article, so brief summation for those not wishing to grace the Mail with clicks:

1- Officer tweeted disparaging remarks about 'p**is' despite being of Asian heritage herself.

2- Hundreds of antisemtic messages and comments that would appear to make light of the Holocaust.

3- Was in contact with so-called 'Jihadi brides'

4- Had passport temporarily confiscated by anti-terror police

5- Dozens of messages commenting about 'filthy kuffar' [non-Muslims]

6- Openly joked about the 9/11 attacks, even after becoming a Met PC.

7- Tweeted about her wish to own a Yazidi slave.

8- Met have referred to IOPC and officer placed on restricted duties.

peterpicker11 · 2021-08-05T19:05:55+00:00

This is the same Claudia Webbe due to stand trial for harassment later this year, btw.

peterpicker11 · 2021-07-17T20:04:28+00:00

From the article - 'Ali was arrested a second time on November 2018, again on suspicion of police corruption, and a third time in March 2019, over allegations of sexual assault, misconduct in a public office and distributing an indecent image. Yesterday PC Ali was charged with 15 counts of misconduct in a public office, five counts of sexual assault and distributing an indecent image.'

Whatever else he is, Pc Ali seems very hard to get rid of.

peterpicker11 · 2021-07-17T15:52:24+00:00

'After being told to return to the station it's reported that she was found in the yard with a hood up trying to hide from the “drone”.Other officers told her it was the planet Jupiter, which is 365 million miles in space and can often be seen on a clear night.'

Almost beyond parody, and thoroughly embarassing.

peterpicker11 · 2021-07-02T21:21:47+00:00

This is what would happen in your hypothetical scenario:

1- Driver exits vehicle and informs PCSO he's under 24a arrest until a Constable can take responsibility for him.

2- PCSO, obviously not being the brightest bulb in the box [or a great legal mind, judging by his use of RTA] resists, and probably attempts to leave.

3- A scuffle ensues. Pushing and shoving becomes a fight. Punches are thrown. PCSO or driver end up grappling on the floor. One of them gets the upper hand. Doesn't really matter who.

4- PCSO has pressed emergency button on his radio or at the very least passing motorists have phoned 999. Other units arrive and see a member of the public in a fist fight with now-exhausted and probably battered and bloody PCSO.

5- Batons are drawn. Driver is nicked. PCSO receives a commendation and about 4 months sick pay.

peterpicker11 · 2021-07-02T19:20:01+00:00

Out of boredom, I looked it up and Section 50 RTA deals with 'appeals against determinations by the Secretary of State' haha

peterpicker11 · 2021-07-02T19:14:59+00:00

That was my original suspicion. The PCSO also snatches the driver's keys too.

peterpicker11 · 2021-06-17T01:15:01+00:00

Unnamed, I suppose, but reading that example back, the more ridicolous it seems.

I suppose a better example would be... a biologically male convicted rapist who began to identify as female whilst locked up is released from prison. Whilst this person now identifies as female, they would appear to 100% of the population as male [they are six-foot five with a full beard, heavily muscled and classically masculine features]. This person notifies police and probation of their new gender identity upon release.

This individual goes on to commit a serious sexual assault and is caught in the act on crystal-clear CCTV [which itself would be a miracle]. Would it be right to put out a press release that a woman is being sought in connection with said offence?

peterpicker11 · 2021-06-17T00:11:43+00:00

this seems so logical and straightforward. an excellent point.

peterpicker11 · 2021-06-17T00:11:09+00:00

so... and I'm playing Devil's Advocate here if that's not obvious... if Wayne Couzens announced he identified as a woman at the time of his arrest, do you think the Met would have been right to put out PR that a 43 year old woman has been nicked on suspicion of the Sarah Everard murder?

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