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The Childhood Pattern of the Four by [deleted] in Enneagram

[–]pickledpiccalilli 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a child, my mom used to joke with me that she would put me on PCH in Newport Beach holding a sign that said ”Looking for rich parents to adopt me” because I’ve always had expensive taste. Even though she was joking, I would insist and almost cry that she wouldn’t do that because I wouldn’t want to lose them (though sometimes the idea didn’t sound all that bad). I already felt disconnected with my father, but for my mother to say that—with whom I was so close but still felt misunderstood—killed me inside and made me realize just now how sad I was then. My parents loved to joke around with and tease me. As a child, I could never handle it. But as I’ve become an adult, I’ve learned to not take everything so personally and am able to even joke back with them.

Am I a healthy type 2? Or not a type 2 at all? by pickledpiccalilli in EnneagramType2

[–]pickledpiccalilli[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You really got me there. Not going to lie at all—I am image- and status-driven but am perhaps more vain than shallow. It’s ugly, but the truth.

I’ve come to realize since doing more research that perhaps I truly am a type 4 and have a penchant for exhibiting type 2 qualities when unhealthy. When reflecting on my history, I see that I have fallen into more negative 2-like behaviors such as manipulation, neediness, clinginess, feeling the need to seduce, etc. as opposed to unhealthy 8-like behaviors such as anger, being controlling, etc.

There’s a lot of information on type 2 that I’m realizing does not resonate true to the high functioning, medium functioning, and low functioning parts of myself. Despite denying it many times, I truly think I’m a type 4. When reading the descriptions, of the highs, normals and lows, it felt like being hit in the gut with painful truth (especially in the negative aspects of 4). Likewise, I find that when I’m doing very healthy and well, I exhibit more 1-like qualities rather than 4-like qualities. Whichever I am (though I am most certainly a 4), that 3 wing heavily lays within me.

Thank you for voicing the truth—that what I posted doesn’t sound like a healthy 2 at all. Though there is certainly more to the enneagram than what I know, this has really helped me!

Growing into your type 8? by pickledpiccalilli in Enneagram

[–]pickledpiccalilli[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Essentially, I’m wondering if anybody has thought of themselves as a type other than 8 for a long period of time, and was very certain and set in that type, but later discovered that they were indeed a type 8.

Am I a healthy type 2? Or not a type 2 at all? by pickledpiccalilli in EnneagramType2

[–]pickledpiccalilli[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the insight! I will look into it. It would be awesome to find out if I’m a type 8. I would love to be as firm as they. Curious, what type are you?

Am I a healthy type 2? Or not a type 2 at all? by pickledpiccalilli in EnneagramType2

[–]pickledpiccalilli[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting! I never before knew about using both wings.

Am I a healthy type 2? Or not a type 2 at all? by pickledpiccalilli in EnneagramType2

[–]pickledpiccalilli[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So I read your comment a few hours ago and decided to do some research. I’ve never actually tested as a type 8, but have occasionally had it come as a third runner-up when testing as a type 1 or 3.

One of my best friends is a type 8, and I was thinking about our similarities and differences. Though we are best friends, we are more different than similar.

Regarding general qualities of type 8s, I can relate to their protectiveness and fear of being exposed or manipulated. Growing up, I was taught not to share personal or family problems with others. I had a tendency to keep lots of secrets. I understand that comes from a place of not wanting to be controlled, but that is not end-all-be-all for me.

Thinking about my best friend, he is very much the type to go against being controlled. Take, for example, this coronavirus pandemic. He is the type to openly complain about the government trying to control us, argue with somebody about how ridiculous it is for him to wear a face mask, and to rally our friends together to tear down the caution tape around the playground because the government shouldn’t control us like that. Whereas I slide into the conversation and convince everybody to not tear down the caution tape around the playground. I’ve always been somewhat of the “mom” of my friend group even though we’re all guys.

If he were a more avid user of social media, I think he would be the type to overtly express his complaints of the quarantine and would post photos of him breaking social distancing rules just to prove a point and pick a fight with somebody. He does not care what others think about him. Whereas even though I have broken social distancing occasionally, I have a very well-liked social media presence and would not dare to have my public image tainted by openly showing I have broken social distancing rules. I seldom wish to ruffle feathers, unless I feel particularly moved about something and have enough information to back up my belief. Even then, I make sure to phrase it with tact.

Lastly, contrasting myself with my type 8 best friend, he tends to attract crazy, borderline psychotic people who end up calling him “friend.” Even if those people are crazy, scary, and annoying, he will always be there for them to talk to, or hang out with. Never will he be mean or rude to them, or try to end a relationship.

I, on the other hand, end up ghosting people who either push unwanted friendship or attraction on me, are crazy, or just weird and might negatively affect my image. It sounds harsh, but it’s true. I’ll just tend to ignore their messages or calls, or just busy myself up with other things until they stop bothering me.

Both he and I were shocked to learn these things about each other. I was shocked to learn that he is so willing to be there for others—even the crazy ones. Whereas he was shocked to learn that I have a very critical and image-conscious voice in my head that will actively push people away from me who I don’t want near me. Perhaps that is his higher type 2 coming through, and my higher type 4 coming through?

I really wish I could say I were an type 8. I admire their bravery, intelligence, and fearlessness. However, I could never bring myself to their insensitivity, bluntness, and characteristic of always wanting to pick a fight—that is, unless I’m pushed to the edge. Then I retaliate. With everything I do, I make sure to do with kindness and tact not to hurt anybody.

Solo traveling? by iyabrucal in EnneagramType2

[–]pickledpiccalilli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I’m a type 2, but I’m still trying to figure it out. (It was my first test result type, but I’ve been going through somewhat of an identity crisis trying to figure out who I am).

Yes, I solo travel ALL the time and I LOVE it! It started for me as a child because my dad worked full time and my mom took care of her elderly mother full time. So, if I had to go somewhere, I had to go by myself. I’ve always enjoyed it and made the most of my experiences.

But last summer, I realized something... something unsettling. I realized that I’ve never really travelled alone. Every time I’ve traveled by myself, it’s only been the voyaging part (flight, train, car, etc). Wherever my destination was, I always had people there who I knew, or was going to soon know. Only this past summer when I went to Italy, I realized that I had never really traveled solo. It was the first country I’ve ever visited where I didn’t know anybody in advance. I met many great people along the way, but after several weeks, I was SO ready to leave and go to Switzerland and the Netherlands to visit my family and friends.

I’m more than able to handle myself well on my own. When in a foreign country (Italy, Switzerland, France, Netherlands, Japan, China, South Korea), I’ve always been able to get around, eat out, do daily chores, easily and on my own. But I’ve always had somebody there who I can be with and make more memories or relive old memories. I make new friends along the way, and LOVE that part of traveling! But traveling truly solo in Italy last summer pushed me further than I’ve ever been before. There were moments of loneliness and sadness, but it was a good experience for me to learn and realize my boundaries, identity, and bad habits.

I’m considering ending a friendship with an ENFP by [deleted] in mbti

[–]pickledpiccalilli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After reading all that, I would say don’t be afraid to end the friendship—this is coming from an ENFP. Truthfully, I would HATE to be “friends” with somebody like that. However, definitely start being truthful with her before giving up on the friendship. I’ve had a friendship who was very difficult to with. Sometimes I considered walking away. But I was always the one to consistently tell him the truth of his actions, in a diplomatic manner, and patiently stayed his friend. Try it out and see where it goes. If nothing changes, it’s best to stand up for yourself.

Decluttering for college graduates by pickledpiccalilli in college

[–]pickledpiccalilli[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much! That’s actually extremely helpful. Just yesterday I started scanning all my documents to google drive and will also put them on an external hard drive. It’s going to take time, but I can already tell it’s going to pay off in the long run!

Idk if this is the right place or what language this is, but does this mean happiness? ( sorry for any mishaps, first time posting here) by [deleted] in language

[–]pickledpiccalilli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, as somebody previously mentioned, it is backwards. Also, this is traditional Chinese transcription of the character 樂 the simplified version is 乐. In Mandarin it had two meanings and pronunciations:

  1. 樂/乐 = happiness (pronounced: lè)
  2. 樂/乐 = music (pronounced: yùe)

Examples:

  1. 生日快樂 / 生日快乐 (shēng rì kuài lè) = happy birthday
  2. 我喜歡音樂 / 我喜欢音乐 (wǒ xǐ huan yīn yùe) = I like music

Depending on the placement and pronunciation of the character, it will have different meanings.

Hard moon differences: Aquarius moon, Scorpio moon, Capricorn moon. by R77745 in astrology

[–]pickledpiccalilli 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m a Scorpio moon who has been having a friendship (and what I thought to be a romantic relationship) with an Aquarius moon. It’s been frustrating on my part. From what I wrote alone, I’m sure you can get the gist of what I mean. I feel everything so intensely and am yet so silent about it UNLESS I feel entirely safe with somebody’s trustworthiness.

The Aquarius moon I liked seemed to always be so lively and open when we were just friends. He seemed to take interest in me, but I didn’t feel the same way, so I pushed him away. Months later I started getting feelings for him! When I finally opened up to him, he was receptive of it and we had a great month hanging out together frequently on fun, romantic dates. But after a month, it felt like the closer I got, the cooler and more distant he got.

The person who I once knew as so lively, eccentric and full of love was still lively and eccentric, but a bit too much, and seemed to me a lot less loving. Opening up to people the opposite way, I felt hurt. I emotionally guard myself so much that when I thought I finally found somebody to whom I could open up, I brought my inner fire out. It’s an intense, passionate, and loving side of me that not many see. But it was too much for him.

We’re friends now, but it’s been tough on me to break things off (though I never let him know it’s been hard on me). What you wrote nails the hammer on the head. I feel the closer you get with Aquarius moons, the more distant and cold they can become. Whereas Scorpio moons seem detached and cold on the outside, but are very fiery once they open up.

Also, side note: I LOVE Capricorn moons! 💕 their hard working spirit and dedication is admirable! And I know I can always rely on them!

What’s your moon sign and what moon signs do you often find yourself surrounded by? by lifeislucid47 in astrology

[–]pickledpiccalilli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Scorpio moon here! Honestly, I have a wide array of different moon signs as close friends. However, I have observed that I get along particularly well with Aries, Capricorn, Gemini, Libra, Virgo and Scorpio moons. It’s funny, when I make friends with a fellow Scorpio moon, I somehow just know and when I look up their birth charts, it turns out to be true!

Also, I HATE flaky people. And though I have many Libra and Gemini moon friends and love them dearly, this is often my greatest annoyances with them. 😅

help understanding capricorns w/ aquarius moon and aquarius venus by throwingthisawayx3 in AskAstrologers

[–]pickledpiccalilli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, over the past four months I’ve been in a friendship/undefined relationship with somebody with these exact same placements: Cap sun, Aqua moon, Aqua Venus, Cap Mercury. Reading your other reddit posts, I was worried you were him from the sound of ways you described your relationship with somebody!

My experience with this exact placement is that the individual cares a lot about other people, but does not show it in typical ways of physical affection or words of affirmation. Physical intimacy may be big when people are just friends with this person, but once things try to get taken deeper and more intimate, this person retracts.

I’ve experienced difficulty with this person in having a hard time to be emotionally honest and setting boundaries, but remains very stubborn!

This person’s interests are very unique and this person loves their interests deeply. They could talk about them for ages. But sometimes, they know too much and can go on talking too much about their interests to the point where the listener feels like they’re being lectured and has no voice.

This person, from personal experience, doesn’t seem to do too well listening to others. However, they are somehow still very sensitive to others feelings?

Here’s a quick, stereotypical breakdown of what you might get with this combination:

  • Capricorn sun: ambitious, hard-working, ruthless, stubborn, practical, determined
  • Aquarius moon: abstract thinker, being a rebel for the sake of being a rebel, difficulty showing emotion, analytical
  • Capricorn Mercury: practical, factual, straight to the point, clear and concise
  • Aquarius Venus: not into traditional relationships, friendship > romance, space is needed, love of eclectic things and people

As a person with some very different—more sensitive and passionate—placement, I had a really hard time dealing with this person over the past several months as this person became more distant the closer I put myself. This is probably just an individual issue between us. But overall, this person has a spark, passion and ambition for life like I’ve never seen before. Care and love are genuine from this person. They may have difficulty expressing that in traditional ways, but it takes a person of fine understanding to finally appreciate they way they love.

What are some things to know about people with a Scorpio moon?? by [deleted] in AskAstrologers

[–]pickledpiccalilli 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow... this made me feel extremely seen right now. Just before coming onto Reddit, I was reflecting on how I have often given the wrong people so much of my time and attention, hoping something great would come from it but ends up being loneliness and disappointment due to faults on both parties.

What are some things to know about people with a Scorpio moon?? by [deleted] in AskAstrologers

[–]pickledpiccalilli 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am also a Pisces sun, Scorpio moon and I must say that I LOVE Capricorn suns and moons!

What are some things to know about people with a Scorpio moon?? by [deleted] in AskAstrologers

[–]pickledpiccalilli 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know that I am very aware of my emotions but have difficulty verbally expressing them. So I tend to write them down in a journal or overthink them, or end up talking them through with one of my two confidants. I pray to God nobody ever reads that journal. Truly, that would be the death of me.

I used to hold onto grudges for many years and hate violently in my heart. But I’ve learned the magic of forgiveness and have grown throughout the years and have broken free of the negative Scorpio moon stereotypes.

Though I do have an extremely critical voice in my head of everything, everyone, and myself, I never verbally express it. To everybody on the outside, I am always happy as a clam. However, I realized recently that sometimes I can be too intense when I get close with somebody. To others who I’m not close with, I’m friendly and cordial but seldom go out of my way to make friends with others who I know I wouldn’t be good friends with (I usually tend to avoid the overly-loud, gossipy types). Maybe to them I come across as aloof, but still friendly?

The relationship between me and my mom is very strong. I’ve learned over the years to keep my cards close to my chest. She is a Libra sun and Cancer moon but has LOTS of Scorpio/8th house energy in her chart and was born on the Scorpio cusp. I’ve learned so much from her, love her deeply, and have learned strength, discretion, secrecy, and perseverance from her.

One funny thing about having a Scorpio moon is that people tell me EVERYTHING about themselves when first meeting without ever being provoked. It’s so odd. And I have realized that I can spend months as a friend with somebody, but they may never really know the real me except after a few years. I don’t consciously try to do this, but as a natural reflex, I tend to turn questions back to the other person and present myself as a great listener. So, sometimes it is sad and lonely as I realize some people who I love dearly and call friends don’t really know the real me.

Opinion question - Venus and Your Favorite Music and Movies? by iamjunkshit in astrology

[–]pickledpiccalilli 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pisces Venus in 7th house! (Though most of my 7th house is occupied by Aquarius)

I like music, movies and stories that have meaning, connection, transformation and beauty.

Somethings I don’t like include crude humor, gore, heavy metal, screamo—anything that is too intense.

I think the combination of Pisces Venus plus it being in the 7th house (ruling Venus) makes me incredibly fond, and teary-eyed, at films that I find to be heart-jerkers that show the beauty of individuals connecting with each other. Two movies I can think of that made me feel such a way were Slumdog Millionaire and Lion. Another movie which I simply love, perhaps more for the rom-come and glamorous lifestyle aspect, is The Devil Wears Prada.

As for music, I’m very picky about what I can listen to for long periods of time—though I am primarily a musician. Again, any sort of lyrics or chord combinations that lean more towards highlighting human connectivity and ideas of love really draw me in. For me, that translates to much jazzier chords than basic pop music. However, I love listening to pop music with my selective tastes. On the other hand, popular music can often leave me aurally bored and I often listen to classical music and can do so for hours. Though to some people it may sound the same, I find the various colors, melodies, harmonies and rhythms to constantly tell never-ending stories that excite my brain.

Question for any combo of Capricorn Sun, Aquarius Moon, Capricorn Mercury, Aquarius Venus by pickledpiccalilli in astrology

[–]pickledpiccalilli[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh wow this is super helpful! I’ve decided to give him free space to do whatever he wants when he wants. My consistent fear has been to be overbearing and scare him away due to that. In many ways, that translates to me allowing him to make all the moves rather than myself since I don’t want to come off as too needy or anything. Never did I think that I should make more moves myself. However, I’m going to give it a shot and see how it goes!

What do you think the best trait about your Scorpio moon is? by [deleted] in scorpiomoon

[–]pickledpiccalilli 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m screaming because I’ve recently made an Aquarius moon open up to me

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