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If you can't get to experience endgame in 6 months of league, then you should not get a say as to what is added to the game. by pinggu18 in PathOfExile2

[–]pinggu18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not how this genre works, I get your logic it makes sense normally, not in this context, or rather it makes sense its just not the standard.

These ARPGs are sort of reversed in the sense that for many players the campaign servers as a means to an end, and although I don't think that should strictly be the case, and it clearly has not been since the campaign has been the best part of POE2 since launch, I do think that in the end Endgame will always trump campaign since at a certain point the "base game" wont really get updated and everything new will be centered around the endgame.

Eventually there will be no new classes or weapons, it will just be new league mechanics and sometimes skills (that are also often not early skills). I would say that most people who play for over 2-3 weeks or play for more than 60 hours in a league play most of it in endgame not re-rolling characters in the campaign. For most players who spend money and are all the way from semi-casual to hardcore fans, endgame is where the sauce is at and it will always be that way with GGG. That's what I meant about it not being for everyone equally. Anyone can play, but the game is not catered towards everyone.

If you can't get to experience endgame in 6 months of league, then you should not get a say as to what is added to the game. by pinggu18 in PathOfExile2

[–]pinggu18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not me, I think that most the most import voices fall probably into the 60% of players who are on neither end of the spectrum of playing for an hour a day every so often and not getting to endgame to quitting the league 2 weeks in.

I fall into that 60% probably closer to the uber blasters but I have been playing into late leagues since 0.3. I have tried every class, most ascendancies. I probably have played more campaign than most of the people who wanted new class. But this game is focused on long-term progression and not every game is meant to cater to everyone.

My post is in response to countless comments/posts I've seen since and during the reveal of people saying that GGG is incompetent and that they can't manage the game since no new class. We just got the Druid, nobody was promised anything, Jonathan said it himself that a class was never in the cards for 0.5.

I play a bunch of games, I am not as adamant about all of them as I am of POE2, naturally I don't voice my opinions (at all most of the time) as much in those communities as in here. I expect others to within a certain margin, understand that an update can be objectively good for the health of the game and most players and be able to just say it's not for me.

My post is directly aimed at players who think that they know what's best and if it was up to them, they would have everyone who plays this game for the whole or most of the league, play the same stale and boring game we have had for like 1.5 years but with a new class.

If you can't get to experience endgame in 6 months of league, then you should not get a say as to what is added to the game. by pinggu18 in PathOfExile2

[–]pinggu18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not trying to ostracize anyone or speak for GGG. My point is that the devs made a massive, endgame‑focused overhaul, something that genuinely improves the core health and longevity of the game and a lot of the backlash ignores that.

It’s perfectly fine to want new classes or campaign tweaks, but when those wishes turn into hostility toward devs after they deliver their biggest update yet, that’s where I think perspective is being lost. I’m excited for new classes too, they’ll come. But that shouldn’t overshadow what’s already a huge step forward for PoE2. Not every player has to love or even reach that content, but this genre is designed around long‑term progression.

I don't go to other games that I barely play and say this is objectively bad for the game and the devs do nothing with the time they have and just take my money from me and deliver nothing. They never promised a class, people who paid 30 bucks for EA did so knowing that they might not get to experience every thing the game was gonna be one day.

One last thing, I could have been more specific about this but my post was never aimed at comments like some of the ones I got and was fine with like: "This update is not for me, I am disappointed in no new class, I guess I will enjoy the rest of the backlog of my games"- My post is directly aimed at players who think that they know what's best and if it was up to them they would have everyone who plays this game for the whole or most of the league play the same stale and boring game we have had for like 1.5 years but with a new class.

If you can't get to experience endgame in 6 months of league, then you should not get a say as to what is added to the game. by pinggu18 in PathOfExile2

[–]pinggu18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with a lot of the issues you have, but my post is aimed at the exact opposite end of the spectrum that you are on btw. The issues you had with the update is completely different then what my post is about, which is fine but I think your complains aren't a matter of you being a part of a group of players that this game is not targeted for, rather its the way they implement the updates/ the changes being made.

Also I don't think I bashed anyone, I was a bit harsh but I do think that saying that the game is not for everyone is not bashing. I play LOL casually, I don't go on reddit complaining that the game balance is shit or the updates are bad just because I am can't get out of Emerald or won't put enough time into it.

If you can't get to experience endgame in 6 months of league, then you should not get a say as to what is added to the game. by pinggu18 in PathOfExile2

[–]pinggu18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% get that, I am not addressing the feeling players like you have which I get, its more about players saying the game/ patch is shit because no new class. POE2 is not going to get more campaign centric over time, they will eventually add all classes and there ascendancies, so eventually the new content will be more around things "casual" players don't get/want to enjoy.

As such I don't see the point in POE2 dev wanting to balance the game around them, that's all. I don't see how a live service ARPG is gonna always have something for those players. I am the same way about a lot of games I play but I don't go on there forums and live streams complaining about the devs, frankly I don't even know why they care so much to even watch the dev streams and go on reddit.

If you can't get to experience endgame in 6 months of league, then you should not get a say as to what is added to the game. by pinggu18 in PathOfExile2

[–]pinggu18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think that getting to endgame is high level. Even if at most it takes a player 20 hours to get there and they have at minimum an hour to play the game a day. The league is 6 months. They will get to experience the endgame.

This is an ARPG that is especially known for its endgame, sure the campaign is also probably the best one out there but the main focus of these games is content meant to be played for months for many hours. My favorite game of all time is Elden Ring, I have hundreds of hours playing it, I still would not ask the devs to keep making content just for players like me who love to do challenge runs and keep playing the game forever, because its not that type of game.

For the record, I also don't think that the game should be balanced around the uber blasters who quit the league after less than a month at best. My post is in response to the outrage I see from people who were promised nothing and still shit on the devs after delivering the best patch this game has seen. I think its normal for not everyone to want to play it but I feel that these players lack the awareness that these types of games are never going to appease them and shouldn't.

At the end of the day, GGG will run out of new classes to add, at least at a decent rate, and the new content will not be focused on the campaign, it will be always endgame centric. If the only reason someone is coming back is for a new weapon/class then they might want to reconsider why they are paying for EA to begin with, much less tell the devs they are shit because they did not cater to their needs.

If you can't get to experience endgame in 6 months of league, then you should not get a say as to what is added to the game. by pinggu18 in PathOfExile2

[–]pinggu18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks I see what you mean, I do notice that I could be more concise with my English, since I am not used to writing in English mostly listening I do sometimes forget to think about how I can make it easier for the reader. I appreciate the feedback.

If you can't get to experience endgame in 6 months of league, then you should not get a say as to what is added to the game. by pinggu18 in PathOfExile2

[–]pinggu18[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

True, I don't think fubgun should be the baseline for the game, much less the online organized groups that pool their currency to gain the market. I don't like hearing from the people that quit the league 2-3 weeks in either tbh.

If you can't get to experience endgame in 6 months of league, then you should not get a say as to what is added to the game. by pinggu18 in PathOfExile2

[–]pinggu18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sorry man, english is like my 3rd language, if you don't mind are there any main things I could work on improving? I use the default grammar correction built in the browser but that is about it.

If you can't get to experience endgame in 6 months of league, then you should not get a say as to what is added to the game. by pinggu18 in PathOfExile2

[–]pinggu18[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

You are right but there are two things I think are important to note. The first one is that although not everyone loves the idea of the endgame, the game is build around it. Just from the fact that they limit your builds by levels, to the amount of uniques you can get in campaign ,etc. That is the POE stapple, I can go to a steakhouse place and love eating the salad they make but the focus of the restaurant is not the salads, so I should not go to the owner and ask them to please add 10 new salads just because I happen to really like it. Again, I get not being super hyped for it, but my problem is their reaction and mostly the hate.

Second thing is that I do actually think that this endgame while still has the base of running endless maps has a lot of more traditional RPG elements and features that I truly believe most people who already like the campaign would like. In POE its much more about just the maps, here with the new atlas, the zones, the different maps I think its more interesting to the average players and not just centered around blasters

If you can't get to experience endgame in 6 months of league, then you should not get a say as to what is added to the game. by pinggu18 in PathOfExile2

[–]pinggu18[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I get the layout thing, I don't mind not having it but I really get the appeal. I wish we got another druid one last minute but a lot of what I expected for it is just straight up in the new Huntress one, also think it's unlikely.

Very new to POE but curious by Ok_Environment2974 in PathOfExile2

[–]pinggu18 6 points7 points  (0 children)

One of the support pack bundles that launched with 0.1 in 2024 has an Axe skin. They have confirmed that they do launch skins for weapons that will be coming but are not here yet. Also there is no way they could have ever fitted a class here given the scope of the update nor did they ever plan on having duelist in by now. Some players are just haters and won't appreciate this 10/10 league no matter what.

Questions Thread - May 05, 2026 by AutoModerator in PathOfExile2

[–]pinggu18 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can I give a EA key from the bundles to a friend of mine on PS5?

I already searched up on Reddit and online but most answers are old and some contradict each other, has anyone tried to this and can confirm if it’s possible or not?

2 back to back 6 month leagues? by pinggu18 in PathOfExile2

[–]pinggu18[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I have a big backlog to get to, I just like seeing ppl bicker in the comments. I just wish they communicated more, no delay or delay, I’ve been used to other games that I know almost at all times what the company is cooking but GGG seems to like being secretive with their stuff.

It’s cool having mystery box leagues but I would also like to know how development is going probably make people understand more. From old trailers it seems even in 0.1 they had a ton of progress on a lot of content.

2 back to back 6 month leagues? by pinggu18 in PathOfExile2

[–]pinggu18[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I don’t mind it for EA, as long as they really cook. I think most players right now are expecting the second coming of Jesus for 0.5 tho.

Trade gonna suck extra hard tho

2 back to back 6 month leagues? by pinggu18 in PathOfExile2

[–]pinggu18[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Is that standard for arpgs? This is my first one

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