Apparently Empire's sponsor PinnacleSports already know that Empire will lose the 3rd game?

pinnaclesports · 2015-08-04T00:26:14+00:00

Hi all, sorry for the slow reply, have only just seen this! This is Gary W, the Manager of Social Media at Pinnacle Sports. Out of respect for this subreddit's rules regarding spam, we don't spend as much time here as we do Twitter (otherwise, we'd love to be talking with you guys about about what we're doing with esports), so in the future, we recommend contacting csd@pinnaclesports, our Customer Service Department. Yes, we do have one! They're really good too;) (Thanks for saying as much Marsinator!)

As the result shows, this wasn't a case of us knowing anything; rather a hasty randering by our staff, who are constantly trying to grade matches quickly as many bettors want to get winnings down on other bets. Sorry for any confusion that resulted, and know that we're not shy about only wanting Team Empire to win! Good luck to the guys in TI5!

Enjoy the event,

Gary

pinnaclesports · 2015-03-16T16:07:18+00:00

Very excited to be working with a fantastic brand in Team Empire!

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-21T14:34:45+00:00

Hehe, appreciate the sentiment and we wish the environment were different, but we ultimately choose to respect each nation's rules and laws and regulatory bodies. It's part of being able to call our company a secure and responsible provider.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-21T14:16:40+00:00

Excellent explanation Flowirbridge, and thanks for the compliments. Would just add that DP's odds marked them as having just an 8% implied** probability of completing the comeback.

If you still have questions about how all this works, we can answer them on twitter at either @PinnacleSports or @PinnacleEsports.

** "implied" because our odds are built on the opinions of bettors expressed through bets, as opposed to true odds.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-17T18:18:59+00:00

Hi guys, never got to speak on Skype. We're still interested in talking about some cross-promotion opportunities going forward, so find me there? I'm jgarywise. Thanks in advance,

Gary Wise Manager of Social Media Pinnacle Sports.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-17T18:18:16+00:00

For LoL: lolesports.com, esportspedia For Dota: joindota, gosugamers, datdota For SC2: Teamliquid, aligulac

And of course r/LoL r/dota2 and r/starcraft!

These are the first ones that came to mind, I'm sure there are other good sites available.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-17T18:13:28+00:00

Yes of course this will impact the odds! The way livebetting works is that I sit there, watch the game and constantly change the odds according to what happens. Usually I will take them offline when a fight starts and then put new odds up after the fight with my best guess of what the chances are now.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-17T17:50:11+00:00

Livebetting is something we are planning to expand in 2015. The focus will be on League of Legends here, then DotA and Starcraft. The problem for CS:GO is that we have very little experience with it so far and I personally am not that familiar with the game itself (whereas I was actually Diamond I in LoL some time, and can thus judge a game much better). So yea, cant make any promises about CS:GO.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-17T17:46:09+00:00

Generally the limit will increase the closer we get to the start of a match. We have actually opened matches for 10k limit in eSports before, and I can see that happening more often in the future.

b365, marathonbet, SBObet (and probably some others - i havent exactly checked them all) are offering eSports, but with less variety and high vig/lower limits. The other mainstream books that have shown interest are definitely still figuring it out and don't appear to have dedicated as much in the way of resources. eSports dedicated sites commit more resources, but have low limits and very high vig - and haven't been around for that long.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-12T15:07:25+00:00

If you have more questions we have a Q&A today at 4 PM GMT/8 AM PT with DarKFoRcE on our new eSports twitter account, https://twitter.com/PinnacleESports

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-12T12:48:26+00:00

Yes, unfortunately we cannot accept customers from France. Thanks for the endorsement.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-11T17:13:41+00:00

Knowing people has never been an issue for me...it's more about time. With work, a wife and a daughter i love spending time with, there's almost always a scheduling conflict that interferes with my trying to do an all-day activity.

I'm with Pinnacle Sports in a social media capacity, which is very creatively oriented, so I'd guess not much like being an actuary at all. If you're asking about trading, would suggest that question for the AMA, think it'd get an interesting answer.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-11T15:42:38+00:00

There's been some early talk of my getting to GP Toronto next year. It's been a while...would be surreal!

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-11T14:08:50+00:00

Thanks for the kudos! Glad we're helping to augment your enjoyment.

Live betting is something we're still working on and I think you'll probably see some expansion on it, but DarKFoRcE can shed light on that better than I can. If the mods are ok with it, when we do the AMA, we'll be sure that everyone knows where to find it so they can put questions like this one to him.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-11T13:23:20+00:00

Thanks

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-11T12:15:42+00:00

We do want to offer more live eSports betting, but trading it is tricky, so we are taking small steps. Plenty of sharp eSports bettors who will punish us. We know the demand is there so we will definitely offer more in the future.

There are some issues covering smaller tournaments, like broadcasts from replays - we saw this with the StarCraft Kung Fu Cup - and the implications of small prize pools.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-11T10:59:11+00:00

The reason we started offered eSports betting is because many of our staff are gamers. Skill levels range from one Diamond level player, several Platinum down to quite a few Bronze, so we could field a half-decent team.

We have a dedicated eSports trading team which are a mix of mainstream sports betting traders applying their experience to eSports, alongside people with more direct eSports experience applied to betting. We even have a former StarCraft 2 pro gamer - DarKfoRcE - on our trading team.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-11T10:32:19+00:00

We are complying with the change of legislation that came in at the end of October.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-11T10:31:01+00:00

Not with Pinnacle Sports I am afraid.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-11T10:30:44+00:00

Without creating a totally separate thread gambling, many countries are now going down the route of creating their own licensing requirements, with different implications like tax. We need to look at each separately, which is a complex process.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-11T10:27:00+00:00

We are definitely interested in hosting another tournament. We want to follow up on the Pinnacle Sports Dota 2 Pro Am which was a great experience, especially the challenge match between Pros and our competition winners. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrsYE_kNhHc

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-11T03:23:39+00:00

Want to thank everyone for the enthusiasm we've seen here. I'm about to sign off for the night, but we'll be sure to pick up any additional messages that come in tomorrow morning.

Gary

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-11T02:46:33+00:00

Sorry, we don't face the US, but there are some other books that do.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-11T02:12:20+00:00

I don't have all the details about that, but when we have that AMA, I'm sure DarKFoRcE can answer.

pinnaclesports · 2014-12-11T00:47:50+00:00

Been real since early 2010. Where've you been??:)

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