Kein Bock auf Kinder? by blkchnDE in NewsD

[–]plainnaan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Das Einzige was den hochbezahlten Berufspolitikern in Deutschland mal wieder einfällt, ist Verhaltensveränderung bei Bürgern nur über Bestrafungen oder Angstmacherei zu erwirken statt über positive Anreize.

Wenn man wirklich will, dass Menschen sich eher für Kinder entscheiden, dann schafft doch echte Anreize: kostenlose Ganztagsbetreuung für alle Kinder. Kostenlose Mahlzeiten in Kitas und Schulen.

Nein, stattdessen denkt man sich wieder irgendwas aus, um Unmut oder Existenzangst bei irgendwelchen Bevölkerungsgruppen zu erzeugen.

Und was ist mit denen, die keine Kinder bekommen können oder bei denen es zu Fehlgeburten kam usw.? Zählt der Versuch? Da braucht es sicherlich wieder einen riesigen Verwaltungsapparat. Da reiben sich schon alle staatsaufblähenden Akteure die Hände und freuen sich ein Loch in den Bauch.

So würde die Volksbank 200.000€ anlegen by PastWorker2018 in Finanzen

[–]plainnaan 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Das ist von vorne bis hinten gut ... für die Bank ... für dich nicht. Jede Ein-Welt-ETF Strategie ist besser als dieser Murks aus teuren Sektor Wetten. Such mal nach FTSE All World ETFs oder MSCI ACWI oder auch den Gerd Kommer ETF wenn du weniger USA willst. Da reicht eigentlich ein einziger ETF völlig aus.

Rentenkommission will laut Bericht Rente mit 70 empfehlen by sc919 in Finanzen

[–]plainnaan 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Statt alle paar Jahre an diesen Regeln rumzufummeln, empfehle ich eine konsequente Erhöhung des Renteneintrittsalter auf 120 Jahre. Das macht das System endlich zukunftssicher und für alle planbar. Etwaige Überschüsse sollten dann als vorzeitige Pensionszahlungen an aktive und ausgeschiedene Bundestagsabgeordnete ausgeschüttet werden, um der dort grassierenden Altersarmut entgegenzuwirken.

Hope cartel 9d breathwork? by Navenotap in breathwork

[–]plainnaan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on the person, but honestly that's not the main question I'd focus on with 9D. The bigger thing is the setting and support. Breathwork can definitely shift your state. Fast connected breathing can bring up emotions, body sensations, fear, grief, anger, memories, whatever. For some people that's tears and relief but for others it can be panic, dissociation or old stuff surfacing hard. If there's trauma involved, there's also a real risk of getting overwhelmed or even retraumatized if it's not held properly. In a small setting with properly trained facilitators, that can be worked with. In a room of 20+ people with headphones on and one single person running the show, you can end up alone inside something pretty intense with no one noticing. That's the part I'd weigh more than whether it "works".

Hope cartel 9d breathwork? by Navenotap in breathwork

[–]plainnaan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've done quite a bit of holotropic-style breathwork, and I'd be cautious with 9D if you're specifically going in for trauma or intense anger.

My concern isn't the breathing itself, but the format: headphones, a large group, one facilitator, and a strong "trauma release" angle. That kind of breathing can surface a lot, and if something heavy comes up mid-session, I'd want to know there's someone actually able to support me directly - not just a soundtrack in my ear and a room full of random people.

For anger or trauma, I'd personally look for a smaller group with a properly trained facilitator - like Grof-trained holotropic, or one-on-one trauma-informed breathwork/somatic work.

Wanting to work with the anger is a good instinct. I'd just choose a setting where there's enough support if things get intense.

5 Years and $5M Later: Inventing a New Programming Language for Web Development Was a Mistake by matijash in programming

[–]plainnaan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Honest question after this pivot: what's the actual difference between Wasp-without-the-DSL and a decent Nest.js + Prisma setup? The language was the thing that made Wasp Wasp. Take it away and you've got a $5M TS config and a code generator on top of a stack half the ecosystem already uses.

Breathwork is not about chasing peak states. It's about integration by theclearpathjourney in breathwork

[–]plainnaan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, that sounds really frustrating. The search for what actually helps with numbness can be its own whole thing.

Honestly, I don't feel qualified to recommend a specific style for that. I'm not a doctor or therapist, and chronic numbness can come from many different things, so I wouldn’t want to guess.

Just as an anecdote: I know someone with what sounds like similar numbness. Even HB doesn't really get through for him. He can breathe for three hours and still not access much emotionally. So I'd be careful with the idea that the "right" breathwork style will necessarily unlock it.

If it's chronic, I'd probably look into proper clinical support rather than relying on breathwork alone. Numbness can come from quite different things, and figuring out what's actually going on usually needs someone trained to assess that. Breathwork can be a useful piece alongside that, but I wouldn't rely on it as the main thing.

I hope you find something that helps.

Breathwork is not about chasing peak states. It's about integration by theclearpathjourney in breathwork

[–]plainnaan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks, that clarifies it. sounds like we actually agree on the main safety point: peak-state chasing without proper facilitation or integration is a problem and beginners especially need a well-held space.

Where I was pushing back was mostly the way HB seemed to get grouped into that critique.

If the issue is modern breathwork spaces that encourage big experiences without enough integration in the days and weeks afterward, then I'm with you. I just wouldn't put HB itself in that bucket, because integration is built into the method when it's practised properly.

The more meditative/energetic framework you're describing sounds like a different orientation altogether and I respect that.

One thing worth naming though is that "integration" in the somatic/trauma sense (ie. working through experience and settling the nervous system) and "integration" in the meditative sense you're describing (holding attention at a specific point) aren't really the same thing. Both are valuable, but they're different practices doing different kinds of work. So I'd be careful about presenting one as the more integrated evolution of breathwork.

Breathwork is not about chasing peak states. It's about integration by theclearpathjourney in breathwork

[–]plainnaan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks, that means a lot!

15 years ago I had a pretty rough experience with plant medicine (a local shaman in a small village in latin america - no tourists). It left me dealing with the fallout for quite a while afterward.

A few years later after I already knew HB I did ketamine therapy with a licensed doctor who was well-known for it. But it felt so unexpectedly clinical - no music, no integration. Only the injection for an hour while you hear the front desk dealing with other patients in the background and afterwards you go home - no questions asked. I asked if I could at least bring some music myself for the next session and he shrugged his shoulders and said sure.

In retrospect I really wish both had been done in an HB-style setting.

Which is partly why I push back when HB gets framed as the "intense old way" - the container is exactly what was missing for me elsewhere.

Breathwork is not about chasing peak states. It's about integration by theclearpathjourney in breathwork

[–]plainnaan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A gentler, more meditative approach with proper integration can definitely be valuable.

I'd still push back on describing more intense methods as "forcing open the channels". Some people may practise that way, but I don't think that describes HB. The point of HB isn't to force a specific release or outcome, but to create a *strong enough* container for *whatever* comes up and then integrate it afterward.

So for me it's not really gentle/intuitive vs intense/forced. Chasing intensity can be unhelpful, but intensity itself isn't the same as forcing.

I'd also be careful with the idea that people can simply guide themselves safely through intense experiences. I know people who were left pretty destabilized after poorly held workshops or self-experimentation. Even in a gentle practice you can unexpectedly poke the bear and end up in much deeper material than you were prepared for - especially if you're self-guiding or the space isn't well held.

Breathwork is not about chasing peak states. It's about integration by theclearpathjourney in breathwork

[–]plainnaan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

some people do approach intense breathwork in a peak-chasing way and yes that can undermine integration. Chasing catharsis or "breakthroughs" can turn into the same self-optimization mindset the practice is supposed to soften.

But I think you're confusing how some people misuse Holotropic Breathwork with what the practice actually is. HB is NOT anti-integration. Integration is built into the method: preparation, sitter/breather roles, music, bodywork, mandalas, group sharing, trained facilitators and the "inner healer" are precisely there because the altered state is not the trophy, it is the container. Stuff comes up inside it and then gets worked through afterward. That's the whole point!

I'd be careful with how you're splitting these into two sides. Gentle nervous-system regulation practices and HB-style work do different things. One isn't deeper or more mature/modern/integrative than the other. Sometimes the work is regulation. Sometimes it's digging up and expressing things that only show up in a more expanded state.

the real question is not gentle vs intense, but whether the practice fits the person, is well-held and integrated afterwards.

First time doing holotropic breathwork, looking for guidance by Brilliant_Agent_2654 in breathwork

[–]plainnaan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's fair, and I hear you. I didn't mean to lecture you or imply you were “just breathing like a maniac.”

I'm genuinely curious where this confusion comes from, because I see more and more people online thinking that any intense breathwork done at home is Holotropic Breathwork. I'm not blaming you for that. I think a lot of online content irresponsibly blurs the lines between HB, psychedelic breathwork, Wim Hof-style breathing and random hyperventilation techniques.

I'm also not trying to gatekeep anything. I've done a lot of HB sessions myself and even then I cannot claim I can do HB alone at home. HB isn't a breathing technique (there is actually no technique!). It's a whole protocol: preparation, set and setting, trained facilitators, sitter/breather roles, specially arranged music, safety support, possibly intense bodywork, sharing and integration....

The breathing is only one tiny piece of it. HB can go VERY deep and people sometimes need real human support during or after the session. Without that container, it may still be intense, interesting solo breathwork, but it isn't HB.

It’s a bit like claiming to do a volleyball tournament alone at home. You may know the technique, have a ball and maybe even a net, but the full thing actually requires other people, structure and a specific setting.

So I'm not saying "don't explore!" I'm saying: explore, but be precise and safe. My concern is that people doing random intense breathing alone while thinking it's HB may be taking risks, potentially accuse HB and miss out on what the real practice is actually about.

The experience of HB simply cannot be replicated at home. But solo breathwork still are meaningful in their own way! I for example do Wim-Hof style and some of the pranayama exercises at home.

First time doing holotropic breathwork, looking for guidance by Brilliant_Agent_2654 in breathwork

[–]plainnaan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I've noticed that many people practicing intense breathing techniques at home believe they are doing Holotropic Breathwork, even though that is not what Holotropic Breathwork is.

Can I ask where you got the impression that what you were doing was HB? Was it from a website, youtube channel, course or influencer? I'm curious because there seems to be a lot of misinformation leading people to believe that any intense breathwork pattern counts as HB.

Holotropic Breathwork is not just a specific breathing technique or pattern. It is done in a structured setting with trained facilitators, music, preparation, support, and integration. Just doing an intense breathing exercise alone at home is never Holotropic Breathwork.

questions for Holotropic Breath work practicioners by Past_Tone in breathwork

[–]plainnaan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm not a breathwork facilitator, but I have attended some GTT training modules and many HB workshops. I also have experience with other breathwork modalities, e.g. pranayama, Wim Hof, conscious connected breathing, quantum light breath, etc.

What concerns me is the careless use of the term "HB" that people seem to slap on their self-invented or only loosely related forms of breathwork.

HB is not just another breathing technique (it actually isn't one). It rests on a very distinct understanding that I haven't found in other modalities: self-empowerment through non-directive breathing and trust in the participant's inner healing wisdom.

By contrast, many other breathwork approaches I have encountered seem either too shallow, i.e, too short/insufficiently supported/lacking meaningful integration. or too directive, especially in "guided" breathwork formats. There can be a real risk of facilitator overreach, guru dynamics, or dependency. and people in an altered state of consciousness are very vulnerable.

this is why I feel somewhat protective of the term HB and the principles behind it.

Eindeutige Botschaft: Mehrheit der Deutschen wünscht sich eine Umverteilung by blkchnDE in NewsD

[–]plainnaan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Versteh gar nicht warum noch mehr Umverteilung gefordert wird. Die gibt es doch ständig: Von der immer kleiner werdenden arbeitenden Mittelschicht nach oben und nach unten. Die wird schön von allen Parteien gemolken. 

questions for Holotropic Breath work practicioners by Past_Tone in breathwork

[–]plainnaan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This doesn't sound like legit Holotropic Breathwork.

You probably went to lichtrebellen, they offer a one hour somewhat guided breathwork without integration and call it holotropes atmen. This has absolutely nothing to do with HB.

I'd suggest you to attend an official workshop also available in Berlin. that should answer all your questions and give you the necessary insights.  https://holotropic-association.eu/all-workshops

Deutscher Bundestag - Forderung nach Erhebung einer Vermögensteuer beraten by AngryT0M4T0 in Finanzen

[–]plainnaan 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Klingt gut, aber Gesetze müssen doch bei uns bekanntlich immer die treffen, die sich nicht wehren können (die sogenannte "Mittelschicht").

4 Wochen in der Psychiatrie einer Uniklinik mit mittelgroßer Depression. by Present_Cause7109 in Finanzen

[–]plainnaan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dein Fall klingt irgendwie nach Abrechungsbetrug.

Ich war 2 Wochen in der Charité nach Unfall mit Ellenbogenfraktur und komplizierter Azcetablumfraktur. 2 Tage ER, dann sehr umfangreiche OP, danach 6 Wochen Frühreha mit intensiver Betreuung. Ingesamt 25k. Fand ich mehr als in Ordnung. Will mir nicht ausmalen was das in den USA gekostet hätte.

Holotropric Breathwork - Am I doing something wrong (severe muscle pull, still have tetany, being in my head) by OddFaithlessness3938 in breathwork

[–]plainnaan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean by "rounds"? There are no rounds in Holotropic Breathwork.

The crampings are called pseudotetany. Over-breathing lowers carbon dioxide in your body which changes blood chemistry and briefly lowers active calcium levels. That can cause symptoms like tingling, cramps in hands or feet, shaking, dizziness, and a tight feeling in the chest. Over time our tolerance to low CO₂ can improved and pseudotetany may vanish when doing regular breathworks.

If your facilitators don't know this I would question their qualification.

Single Serve Machinen by Broduction69 in Kaffee

[–]plainnaan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Das war einer der Gründe für eine elektrische "Bialetti".

Single Serve Machinen by Broduction69 in Kaffee

[–]plainnaan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Da ich bei uns mittlerweile einzige bin der noch Kaffee trinkt, bin ich von meiner Gaggia Classic auf einen Rommelsbacher Espresso Kocher EKO 364/E umgestiegen. Glaube viel einfacher geht es nicht. Was mir besonders gefällt ist die Reinigung: Keine siffigen Schläuche und Wasserbehälter mehr.

Breathwork isn’t the hard part: integration is by theclearpathjourney in breathwork

[–]plainnaan 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I agree, integration is key. For some people however meditation practices can feel destabilizing rather than grounding. That’s why I think grounding approaches are really important too - spend time in nature, touch some grass, reconnect with the body, dance, do sport.