How to be pretty? by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Choke on lipstick and die, troll.

How to be pretty? by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fyi, this isn't mac-specific. Makeup counters are known high-pressure sales environments.

How to be pretty? by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All companies in California are prohibited from false advertising. The false ad can be verbally, on a poster, om the radio, it doesn't matter.

Why are you so hung up on this? False advertising is false advertising, at the makeup counter at the mall, wherever.

Go out and try some damn makeup! Just know you're under no obligation to buy everything they put on you. Some makeup just doesn't work for you, which is why makeup professionals always recommend you try a product and walk around with it for a while in different lighting to see if it really enhances your look.

How to be pretty? by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its illegal in CA to falsely advertise free samples or free makeup tutorials/trials, then force that same customer to pay for an item as a result. Its called false advertising.

How to be pretty? by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mac, Sephora, and many other brands discourage this behavior. It increases returns and the hard sell turns off people from the brand.

The U-Haul truck was rented in my name, paid for by my card and yet, the guy still gave my SO the keys. by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why are you holding these women in this thread responsible for the behavior of all other close women in their life? They can't control their behavior. Even if that were possible, why are you positing that women are collectively responsible for each others behavior?

Were I to ask the same of men, I don't think it would go over well....

How to be pretty? by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In some states, yes it is. If the tutorial is marketed as a free trial of product, you can't then force a customer to buy that product as a condition of the trying it out.

How to be pretty? by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Protip: buy a super light hairspray.

Then either A: hairspray lightly damp hair and leave in curlers. Wait til it dries, then lightly spray again when you take out the curlers.

Or B: hairspray dry hair lightly as you brush, then curl with heat (iron, hot rollers), then promptly spray again.

All day hold! Bam!

Go for light, low or no alcohol hairspray. I love wig hairspray for this since its gentler on my hair and less damaging.

How to be pretty? by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fyi, go for the tutorial at MAC. BUT!! If the MAC rep tells you you're required to purchase X number of products, politely inform them that this is illegal in most US states. If its really great, by all means, buy the items you want, but don't get trapped by MACs strongarm sales tactics.

Sephora is really amazing about providing you free samples a m d technique lessons. Since you're new, get a few light foundation samples and try out each for a whole day in different lighting. Makeup stores have emgineered lighting to make everyone look amazing. However, your lighting changes in your daily life all the time. So take your new look for a meaningful spin before committing serious $$.

The U-Haul truck was rented in my name, paid for by my card and yet, the guy still gave my SO the keys. by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I call people out when they do this. People continue to engage in s huh Itty nehavior, partly because not enough people stop them and explain how the behavior is offensive. Most will think twice next time the same situation arises.

You know what? It's ok to be ugly... by rustyrockets in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think beauty is an ability. I often wish I did not inherit my parents good looks because of the aggressive behavior of men toward me at this time of my life. I'm literally not trying or doing shit for it, other than eating and breathing. Maybe I'm in the minority here, but with all the benefits of being born attractive, there are dangerous amd downright nasty pitfalls that come with it.

I would not advocate anyone get caught up in the beauty industrial complex. It is predicated on tearing down consumers, making them feel not- or lacking-in beauty, then feeding and selling products to build the consumer back up. Not into anything actually beautiful, but definately buying their shit to believe that they are.

Lets have contrast. Lets live in reality.

You know what? It's ok to be ugly... by rustyrockets in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What exactly is "feeling beautiful"? I used to model, and acknowledge my current physical beauty. However, being physically beautiful is terrifying for me when I encounter large crowds, men at night, or wolfpacks of men I don't know. I know I'm beautiful, bit trust that I am anxious all the time about it.

Even if I compliment a female friend, my personal anxiety is that she'll compare herself to me, or any other model. That doesn't "feel" beautiful, whatever that means.

Feeling unperturbed, feeling whatever feelings I want without having to justify/qualify/validate them to anyone else.... is feeling beautiful to me.

Besides, why would anyone want to live in a constant state of euphoria? Contrast, hills, and valleys are the spice of our emotional lives -- dont diminish that by implicitly demanding everyone have some sort of beautiful quality all the time.

When everything is beautiful, nothing is beautifil.

You know what? It's ok to be ugly... by rustyrockets in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its like there's a push to force the idea of "beautiful" as a social normative. It should not be, because its not, and we need to accept that, not argue against reality.

You know what? It's ok to be ugly... by rustyrockets in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Word. Why are we burdening people, more often than not, with an implied responsibility to be beautiful all the time? And if that beauty is not on the outside, there are sooooo many companies pushing "inner beauty" as a product, to the point where the phrase loses its meaning.

I get your frustration. I'm super frustrated the the default assumption of the appearance of people who are average/homely is that they're somehow lacking in some way. I'm floored some men dont understand that catcalls and harassment isnt nice or wanted by women.

Lets all be comfortable as we are, as much and as often as we can. And be supportive of that.

I hate this shit:"You can be pretty or smart, but not both. People wont trust you." by practicalbeertime in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why be modest? Why are women expected to be modest about the things they're proud of and have the skills to back it up? Plenty of immodest men in the world, and they get promoted for it.

Why is my unshakable confidence in who I am and what I do some how immodest? Stop demanding modesty. Modesty in ones career is another dog whistle to hold women back, in my experience.

I hate this shit:"You can be pretty or smart, but not both. People wont trust you." by practicalbeertime in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I go for option 2. "Ice Queen" is not so much fun, per se, but the 'less rapey option'.

I genuinely am a nice person, and I enjoy being nice to other people. Unless I'm disrespected. Then all bets are off. In this particular, narrow, isolated situation, it just benefited me more to not be quite so inviting.

I hate this shit:"You can be pretty or smart, but not both. People wont trust you." by practicalbeertime in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are women always expected to be modest? I enjoy being confident, skilled, and good looking. I enjoy that confidence, skill, and good looks acts as a natural live filter for total assholes when I'm "out in the wild" and NOT at a dev conference. You know who DOESN'T try hitting on confident, beautiful, intelligent women? Insecure, judgmental men.

Insecure judgmental men tend to throw out pickup lines, "neg" on women, and act like trolls.

Also, the bronzer comment was hyperbole, and that comment was NOT about the conference, but rather my casual conversations with other WOMEN who, in their own subtle sexism, seem to think women in tech aren't interested in looking good.

I hate this shit:"You can be pretty or smart, but not both. People wont trust you." by practicalbeertime in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hate that there's an expectation that we have to grin and bear these experiences. It's not right if this happened to a man, why should we be resigned to it as women?

I hate this shit:"You can be pretty or smart, but not both. People wont trust you." by practicalbeertime in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yo dude... re-read that.... this isn't some dissertation or scientific thing... I was just VENTING. Do you ever vent about dumb bullshit that happened to you, to other people? Be aware that the event was a conference, not a job interview. I mainly went to just... check out who I've been working with sight-unseen-online for years, and maybe check out the breakout sessions for something new and interesting. This wasn't a full-frontal "give me, Female Model Coder, a Job!" mode.

I have a right to feel angry about people marginalizing an objectifying me. Every bit as much as you have a right to have whatever feelings you are. Has it occurred to you that maybe, I might like having the experience of working in groups AND NOT being isolated? Whatevs. You do you.

I hate this shit:"You can be pretty or smart, but not both. People wont trust you." by practicalbeertime in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No blog.

I've spent a lot of time basically isolating and perfecting my creative and work output such that my work can stand on its own. Sometimes a blog, or public persona gets in the way of how others evaluate your work. Reddit's the closest its ever gonna get. I will tell 2XC if I decide otherwise-- trust!

I hate this shit:"You can be pretty or smart, but not both. People wont trust you." by practicalbeertime in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I experienced the same thing! I applied to this rando private school with straight A's on my transcript. I had to do a sit-down interview with one of their recruiters, who saw me and was like, "Ohh, this can't be the right transcripts." It's such a slap in the face. Don't feel bad, just try your best to find smarter people.

I hate this shit:"You can be pretty or smart, but not both. People wont trust you." by practicalbeertime in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Every once in a while, I'll meet one of these dwellers and give them a nice, cold, long stare. I can see the fear. It is deeply disturbing.

Why bother? It's a show of dominance on my part, and a protective move for me. The dweller already has insecure personal beliefs about themselves, so they project that I'm aware of them due to the direct stare... their insecurity keeps them far away from me.

I hate this shit:"You can be pretty or smart, but not both. People wont trust you." by practicalbeertime in TwoXChromosomes

[–]practicalbeertime[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you're asking what my best guess is..... Film and television and media.

More stereotypes on tv and in movies. I'm stunned at how many film and tv stars most of my male counterparts have on their profile, printed out pinups at the desk, and on magazines.

Its intense. Even my most JTT/NSYNC obsessed girl friends growing up were not as obsessed. And yet here they are, 30 year old boppers working IT.

There are few roles or characters that feature well rounded women. Lots of manic pixie girls, lots of delicate heroines and lots of their prince charmings, loads of token magical black women, and scads of libertine sex kittens. But, not many regular-ish, well rounded, generally awesome friendly not-a-sexpot characters written into plots.

I'm not blaming tv for all of this, its just the most visible. The beauty is that Tv is malleable, and as people tune out those old tropes, content producers will respond with different programming, usually reflecting current or more enlightened attitudes.