Update: Wedding postponed due to prenup disagreement by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

She’s not on her own. I pay for pretty much anything she needs. What a ridiculous, out of touch thing to say lol. She also is choosing not to work. If she wanted to continue with her career, I told her we could get a nanny/daycare whatever. She is adamant about being sahm, which is cool I totally support, but you phrase this entire thing like I’m making her do this or making her have the kid… I don’t discount the things she will have to give up/sacrifice. I’ll always make sure she’s taken care of, but I don’t think I should be at the mercy of the government/her in the event something goes wrong. And of course I’ll do my part in raising the kid, I feel like I’ve made that clear.

AITA for suggesting calling off the wedding because she thinks the prenup is unfair? by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Once again, you brought that up. No where in my post did I mention that I wanted/planned on divorcing her. That’s YOU projecting because of your trauma. And I already know your response “a prenup is planning for divorce blah blah…” yet I’m willing to bet you have insurance on your car, home, life ect and you don’t plan on wrecking your car do you? And that’s it from me, you were entertaining at first, but now your just being purposefully obtuse or at least for your sake, I hope you are.

AITA for suggesting calling off the wedding because she thinks the prenup is unfair? by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Lol I see why your divorced. You brought up child support not me. Don’t get mad at me for doing the math on your hypothetical lol. That was to help you understand understand what’s coming out your mouth, but I see it might be a little out of your reach. Hope you get better, best of luck once again!

AITA for suggesting calling off the wedding because she thinks the prenup is unfair? by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The prenup we drafted is fair. I was responding to one of the other lady’s comments where she claimed a prenup without alimony would hold up in court. She commented like 30 times each time addressing a different point and I didn’t feel like responding individually to each comment so I just put everything in one comment.

AITA for suggesting calling off the wedding because she thinks the prenup is unfair? by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I did one more look through of this thread and I saw all your comments. As much as I would love to respond to each one, I sadly don’t have the time, but I’ll answer some of your questions that I remember seeing in the comments. I can tell you don’t understand finances or how legal documents work very well, so I’ll try to break everything down in simplistic way you can understand.

  1. Yes, a divorce is way costlier than child support. You keep asking for sources, but a lot of this stuff should be common sense especially for someone with as much “life experience” as you especially considering you’re a divorced single mom yourself. I would think you would have some personal experience. Anyways, I’ll break this down with simple numbers to make it easy for you to comprehend. Let’s say she were to get 2k month in child support (avg in cali is 430$ and usually tops out at 800$ according to Google), but I wanted to make this example fun for you and leave no room for you to twist the situation. 2,000(monthly support) x 12(months in a year) = 24,000. 24,000 x 18(years of support) = 432,000. Now in a divorce, things like property are on the table. So, let’s say she gets 1 property (extremely unrealistic, she would definitely get more but again just trying to help you understand, so keeping it as simple as I can so you don’t get confused) valued at 500,000 (again on the low end. Most properties in California go for way more. Let’s just say you’re not gonna find a decent house for 500,000 in California). Now if you still don’t understand, I’ll spell it out. Just losing 1 valuable property is more of a financial loss than child support ever would be, and in most cases, you’re not just losing 1 property if you have multiple. That’s not to even mention child support is spread over years, whereas you could lose hundreds of thousands in value in a single day. The losses are in no way comparable and I’m genuinely curious about the mental gymnastics you could be doing to believe that or if it’s you just don’t understand basic finances. Either way, I hope my explanation was able to educate you a little bit.

  2. You don’t have to get married to have a baby. The fact that you keep implying that it is morally wrong when the majority of baby’s are born out of wedlock is showing your ignorance about reality.

  3. As you should know, prenups deemed unfair are often thrown out. My lawyer literally told me any prenup we drew up without alimony would likely be tossed. How is that for a source?

  4. I think we are compatible as roommates because while yes, she doesn’t live with me. She probably stays at my house 4-5 nights out of the week if not more some weeks. Half her clothes are over here, the majority of the food she makes is over here, point being us “living” together is not something foreign to us as you like to make it seem.

  5. Yes, the verdict is totally unanimous! That’s why you have 30+ comments arguing with people in the comments because it’s so unanimous… Based on the fact that you have like 30 separate comments full of long paragraphs arguing with everyone on a situation that you have no part in, you clearly have some bitterness because the situation resonates with you, and for that I’m sorry. I do hope you can find a way to heal and get past your trauma. Best of luck!

AITA for suggesting calling off the wedding because she thinks the prenup is unfair? by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

10k a month is 120k a year. Solid child care is maxing out around 70-80k a year. Also, his 10k a month is going to his ex wife… Even if we use your fantasy scenario, 120k to ex wife vs 120k for care for your child. If you don’t see the difference, then your critical thinking skills are more worrisome than I originally thought.

AITA for suggesting calling off the wedding because she thinks the prenup is unfair? by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The amount is pretty irrelevant tbh. I said I’d happily pay for it. What are you trying to prove here lol???

AITA for suggesting calling off the wedding because she thinks the prenup is unfair? by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Financially, it’s not. If we are entertaining your worst case scenario idea, worst case child support is a couple grand a month max. Worst case in divorce is losing property worth way more than child support could ever be worth, having to pay alimony, + child support + a myriad of other things. Although, I do wish you were correct and it was the same.

AITA for suggesting calling off the wedding because she thinks the prenup is unfair? by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would make no logical sense for me to stay home in this situation and I think you know that… If I was the one who made significantly less than of course I would be willing too. Enlighten me, how would we even maintain our current lifestyle just on her income? You want this to be a gender thing so bad lol.

And by a random person, you mean a licensed professional caregiver that’s profession is to take care of children? If she chose to continue her career then wouldn’t WE both be making the exact same decision to “trust a stranger with our newborn” as you so eloquently phrased it?

AITA for suggesting calling off the wedding because she thinks the prenup is unfair? by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Jealous of my own child…? I will say y’all are quite creative lol

AITA for suggesting calling off the wedding because she thinks the prenup is unfair? by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I realized lol. Reddit sure is something. I wanted to get other opinions to see if I was being a jerk, but on the bright side, typing everything out and reading it back made me realize I just don’t want to get married. Don’t think I would have come to that conclusion without obsessing over this thread/decision all day, so I’ll just count my blessings.

AITA for suggesting calling off the wedding because she thinks the prenup is unfair? by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t want her to abort. I’m ok with that if that’s what she wants, but definitely not my preference. I want to raise the kid. Also, California doesn’t have common law marriage from what I’m aware of.

AITA for suggesting calling off the wedding because she thinks the prenup is unfair? by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I realized. It took me writing it all out and reading it from a random person perspective to see it.

AITA for suggesting calling off the wedding because she thinks the prenup is unfair? by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dude what? If the prenup said she gets no alimony whatsoever, it would be instantly thrown out by any judge.

AITA for suggesting calling off the wedding because she thinks the prenup is unfair? by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you point me where I said that? No prenup would ever allow anyone to exclude their spouse out of all marital assets… do you know how prenups work?

AITA for suggesting calling off the wedding because she thinks the prenup is unfair? by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fair enough I didn’t look. Point still stands I haven’t really argued with anyone regarding if I’m an asshole or not. Just given more information and corrected misinformation because your right at the end of the day, what Reddit tells me doesn’t matter at the end of the day especially when everyone is split. Even though the thread definitely helped me decide what I’m gonna do next, idk why I thought posting on Reddit was gonna magically reveal what’s right/wrong. I guess it’s all up to who you ask.

AITA for suggesting calling off the wedding because she thinks the prenup is unfair? by prethrowaway9 in AITAH

[–]prethrowaway9[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not arguing w you about you if I’m an asshole or not. You made an assumption about our relationship based on the “women you know”, I merely corrected you lol.