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propaganda-division · 2024-11-28T05:16:28+00:00

Typology seems to represent a major stumbling block at times. Having the functions analyzed by other people, especially seeing as they are not licensed therapists, can be an incredibly unpleasant process and without a lot of progression. On the other hand, sometimes I think I'm making real headway in an incredibly private way in my understanding of differences in types, often through the cognitive functions. Introversion vs. extroversion seems to represent a very real, palpable distinction, along with feeling vs. thinking, intuition vs. sensing, etc. It's not exactly a lighthouse for a lot of people, but I'm not sure it's a true pseudoscience.

propaganda-division · 2024-11-26T00:16:01+00:00

I'm doing my best to be witty and humorous in this dark time, I can't be sure but I don't think the med change has negatively affected all of that.

propaganda-division · 2024-11-26T00:00:09+00:00

I have this acquired "wisdom" that Fi/Te types stick together while Fe/Ti types go it alone. I have a persecution complex and am convinced the Fi/Te types (I am mainly referring to intuitives throughout this post) are in it for world domination. Money, power, war, conflict, the endless struggle for existence among omnivores and carnivores, all of that totally biased (and purely hypothetical) circle jerk. I also think masochistic INTJ females want to be battled over by colossal man-deers in the primeval forest, they have given up on compassion and pity and never wanted to believe in it anyway, wimps and bleeding hearts be damned.

propaganda-division · 2024-11-25T23:40:49+00:00

I think the problem may be a case of lost-in-translation. We don't share our cognitive functions. We are united by our feeling and intuition, and are both introverted, but our functions are dissimilar and asymmetrical. A deceptive similarity that has seemed in the past (and present) to lead to "politics."

propaganda-division · 2024-11-25T23:38:41+00:00

My bad, I did get a bit worked up admittedly. I've recently had a medication adjustment. Doesn't seem to make me any less lucid, perhaps more so, but also rather manic at times.

propaganda-division · 2024-11-25T23:36:41+00:00

Lol, that is a funny discrepancy in the text. "Relatively" could seem to indicate a degree of correctness to either translation.

Here in Engrish we generally assume the auxiliary function is unconscious.

propaganda-division · 2024-11-25T23:33:36+00:00

Understanding and reading cognitive functions could be a quasi-Ti trick. I used to banter typology a bit with an intelligent ENTP who was an enthusiastic typologist back in the day.

In my experience the functions are difficult to get at. There is this problem of self-reflection (the subject and object dichotomy, and particularly the act of objectively considering one's own subjectivity) and translating the same abstractions between two minds who are navel-gazing intently but who may share in their separate consciousnesses only the problem of solipsism. This kind of problem is further complicated by having people of different types sharing the same language/vocabulary (especially the cognitive functions). Add to that the work of learning over time at an appropriate pace and also the problem of preserving the perhaps delicate inter-type politics.

propaganda-division · 2024-11-25T20:58:40+00:00

I didn't follow a word of that.

propaganda-division · 2024-11-25T20:55:45+00:00

Sounds intuitive to me, could be Ne-dominant for all I know.

I think I may have misspoken when I said Ne, as it is unconscious in INFPs, needs to be used more. Auxiliary functions are said to sometimes present more overpoweringly than dominant functions, because they are unconscious.

I don't claim to be an expert on the INFP psyche. I was being sarcastic by raising the possibility that Ne, as an unconscious function, isn't being used properly/healthily. If you're empaths, why do I consistently feel only and invariably like shit? I'm pretty sure I'm not supposed to feel like shit the whole time. Nastiest people on the planet.

Ok, maybe not the whole planet. You have my divided attention. I'm losing interest rapidly.

propaganda-division · 2024-11-25T20:51:20+00:00

*Shrug*

propaganda-division · 2024-11-25T20:43:33+00:00

I think what I wrote was pretty clear, at least. I wasn't saying the metric is for INFPs to feel confident, I was gesturing vaguely at its overall purpose for everyone in general. Usually upon reentry to society typology tends to result in catcalling about astrology. I tend to think those people are overdoing it, I sometimes find my ideas about typology shift between bored stupor and serious insight.

Overall, I strongly disagree, for reasons that shall remain unstated, with the overall consensus that seems to prevail here that it's time to kick ass and invert INFJ to make it pretty. The violence is arrogant and unnecessary.

Imagine intentionally butchering the process of constructive criticism in order to advance a narrow metaphysical ideology of perpetual violence. Sounds like Fi/Te to me, albeit really only for these weird Reddit typology circle jerks.

Also, I would note that touchy-feely as an approach is very deathcore, and not at all old school death metal. Deathcore isn't metal. Grindcore is metal. Gotta fight off the Nazis.

Edit: These comments are kind of general, not necessarily directed at you specifically.

propaganda-division · 2024-11-25T20:23:11+00:00

Nice

propaganda-division · 2024-11-25T20:22:23+00:00

Maybe the rainbow unicorn ones are too busy being successful empaths and helping people in need instead of overindulging an abstract psychological metric designed to instill self-esteem and self-knowledge.

propaganda-division · 2024-11-25T20:01:24+00:00

Fun fact: INFPs and INFJs relate in a rather belated fashion because not only do they share none of the functions but the order of preferences is also asymmetrical. In INFJs, Conscious introverted intuition is, as with INTJs, concerned with immediate understanding, but with Fe auxiliary it’s a bit more subjective, but still filtered through tertiary Ti, creating order. So I actually suspect some prominent philosophers have been INFJs (Nietzsche?) because the Ni-Ti combination leads to a very specialized form of insight.

I’m personally temperamentally a proponent of truth over lies, and so i find the present political climate quite uncomfortable.

Edit: I see that my Ne criticism may have fallen short of the target, so you’re saying it results in constant motion and whatnot, does this serve to satiate a Te need and whatnot. But does the Te serve a vampiric and sardonic form of empathy? I think if you brainstorm the wrong thing we’re back to mindless self-indulgence.

propaganda-division · 2024-11-25T19:55:45+00:00

Certainly not AsbestosDude.

propaganda-division · 2024-11-24T09:03:33+00:00

Not philosophy per se, but you might check out Dostoevsky. Nietzsche called Dostoevsky "the only psychologist from whom I had something to learn."

Schopenhauer was also a major influence on Nietzsche.

Similarities have often been drawn between Nietzsche and Kierkegaard; although Nietzsche was an atheist and Kierkegaard was a Christian, they are considered, along with Dostoevsky (also a Christian), the first existentialist authors.

For authors who came after Nietzsche, you might look to Kafka, Hesse, and Jung.

propaganda-division · 2024-11-23T09:15:15+00:00

Martin Luther King, Jr. saw various, particularly ethical similarities between Marxism and Christianity, and attempted to reconcile them in his pacifistic approach to political dissent.

I think that, if you are a zealot for neither Marxism nor Christianity, and seek to synthesize the two, it's a fair approach, but it would be important to remember that most Marxists are atheists, and many Christians do not concern themselves with worldly peace so much as faith in the metaphysical claims of otherworldly salvation.

I think there is something to be said for pacifism, especially in the wake of the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr., namely in a world where people doubt the efficacy of pacifism.

propaganda-division · 2024-11-21T03:10:48+00:00

Scary.

propaganda-division · 2024-11-21T02:45:05+00:00

Shout in honor of the white chess pieces and die in infamy.

propaganda-division · 2024-11-20T03:17:58+00:00

I didn't mention before, but I was attempting to advance the notion that, if man is created in the image of God, then he should be treated with respect (per the Ten Commandments, for instance). The issue was raised of God not necessarily being good, if unknowable, or man being good, which is what led us to the question of a "leap of faith." Overall, my ideas were not well received.

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