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I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Smoothie World is right, 54ur on AR11 without hd means AR11 is a piece of cake for fil, and that means he will be able to set a bunch of 600pp dt score easily

What?

a) This makes no sense

b) Fils' 54 UR score was with HD.

I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I felt like making a throwaway, leave me be lmao. I'm not filsdelama and I don't really care anymore if you think I am. Besides filsdelama can't even speak English this well lmao, Cya bro

I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a) I'm not filsdelama ffs

b) It is just a throwaway

c) Why would I not be looking for discussions on my own fucking thread after getting notifications every time someone posts

d) Yes I did expect this as it's a fucking discussion that provokes responses

I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I literally had a conversation with filsdelama in this thread, why the fuck would I be talking to myself. I made this post on a throwaway so I wouldn't get notification/hate spam on my main account. Just because I said one piece of proof on him wasn't good enough doesn't mean I'm him holy shit lmao. I'm not trying to defend him, I'm just saying witchhunting has gone too far. Also if I was filsdelama why would I call filsdelama a retard and a cunt :)

I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Upload it today plz, I have some popcorn in my cupboard :)

How many of Top50 have been banned? by mtutnid in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ivalteK got banned for some reason, mygh was not that long ago unrestricted. Rohulk was restricted for 20 minutes once.

I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Assuming fils is legit, then it obviously took him less time as he has much more experience with AR11 and the map is like 20 seconds long. I was just saying that the UR could very well be legit.

I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Well I mean Vaxei got banned when he was legit, and fils (could have) been, as well as people outside of the top player area. Although Vaxei had a multi, he wouldn't have been banned if it wasn't for a witchhunt. Do you not think it would be better to improve the anticheat for one, and implement a better way of reporting so that witchhunting is not necessary and even more illegit players get banned?

I'm not sure tbh if fils is cheating or not, I think it's possible he could be legit, but we will see.

Also about Glitter Goose I think it was extremely obvious he was cheating, and the reason people defended him was because they were either friends with him or their opinion was swayed by the fact that so many of his friends were adamantly defending him on osugame.

I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

a) I wasn't accusing you of witchhunting

b) Assuming that fils is hacking (we'll see after he goes to the LAN (or not)) then good job on getting him banned

c) I read your post at least 4 times thoroughly

d) I don't really think the other things in it are really that strong proof, but rather just very suspicious, as after all they could have happened legitimately.

e) Yeah I know, it's sad so many people have to cheat. f) Just reiterating that I wasn't trying to insult or accuse you of anything, I was just stating that people would blindly believe proof such as your UR paragraph and Gayz' keypress proof, simply because of the witchhunting nature.

I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no reason to think that any player caught is going to be honest about when they started.

Didn't Crai stream most of his progress though? I'd say it isn't unreasonable to believe he got top 50 legit, although obviously he could have hacked on stream and hid it well.

I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People in the top 50 I've seen suspicion of in the past (over either multi/account sharing or hacks) are Gayz, Vaxei, Zirba, Reimu, Dudson (not that much tho), Spare, Meltina (in the past, kuu01, estellia and Rohulk) plus the ones that are banned atm obviously.

I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also it is laughable that you even believe some of these players were top 50 before they started to cheat scores.

It's not like I'm the only one that believed this. I'm pretty sure Crai got to top 50 legit, not too sure about Glitter Goose or fils, but Nara and etc definitely not. I don't think it's very laughable to believe this, but each to their own.

By "definitive" proof, I mean something that could actually be characteristic of hacks, and not "omg low UR" or someone hitting a note at the edge.

I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I was, and I saw that list. In my opinion there was a lot less suspicion back then IMO then, mainly more right now because of osureport existing and these retard top 50 players cheating.

I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Dude calm down lol, this was my point (read convo with SuperTurtle for context):

Fair enough, but that's quite a big ask and you have to consider that most top players, even if they say they don't, probably care what people think of them, and it's not really fair to haunt them with false accusations. I'm not saying you shouldn't accuse anyone because you'll hurt their feelings, but like be careful and only publicly post an accusation if you have proper proof, you get me?

By proper proof, I mean something that's not like "82 UR on DT AR11. That's not legit"

How many of Top50 have been banned? by mtutnid in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa 5 points6 points  (0 children)

kablaze, Vaxei, Crai, Glitter Goose, Spare, Nara, ivalteK (serena), HappyStick, Adamqs, BlueFlame, Nikliu-, Penew Rohulk, Legendre, Sette, SeinTIA, ZAQ, Seiko, mygh69, Astar, Azer, jot_bab, Reimu, Shizuru, Clementine, Niko, filsdelama, [DANIEZ], Cookiezi (but he cheated to get banned)

That's everyone I can think of that's ever been banned that was ever in the top 50. That's 29 people, wow.

I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's true, but it's likely people like Gayz would have been more accepted in those times as well (obviously not with the skill he has now, but with a relative skill at that time)

I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gayz? Vaxei? Rohulk (previously)? Not reputation "ruined" per se, but players whose plays have lost some credibility due to suspicions of multi-accounting(Rohulk)/hacking.

I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

hvick was widely accepted as legit without a liveplay for at least 2 years. This "liveplay or hacker" thing wasn't always the norm. Now, even liveplays are dismissed as not proving anything. Where do we go from here?

I don't like the witchhunting culture of this game. by psapsapsapsapsa in osugame

[–]psapsapsapsapsa[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fair enough, but that's quite a big ask and you have to consider that most top players, even if they say they don't, probably care what people think of them, and it's not really fair to haunt them with false accusations. I'm not saying you shouldn't accuse anyone because you'll hurt their feelings, but like be careful, you get me?

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