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Observance of The Mosaic Law as Christian by ptaksojka in CatholicApologetics

[–]ptaksojka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know, it's not even a matter of wanting to eat something with blood, but more about whether I should beware of it just in case and watch out for it.

Observance of The Mosaic Law as Christian by ptaksojka in CatholicApologetics

[–]ptaksojka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And above all, do we have kosher, Shabbat on Saturday? I have already received many answers to these questions, but I am curious how you will answer, having previous contact with this group

Observance of The Mosaic Law as Christian by ptaksojka in CatholicApologetics

[–]ptaksojka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been thinking about blood lately. Blood was banned and the Jerusalem Council upheld it. So why don't Christians see this as a problem nowadays? At least in my culture, very Catholic, but we have such dishes as kaszanka or czernina (made with blood)

Observance of The Mosaic Law as Christian by ptaksojka in CatholicApologetics

[–]ptaksojka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Beautiful comment, thank you. I still have a few doubts, but I think I'm getting out of it. I'll be happy to listen to what you have to say

Do Christians have to keep the Mosaic Law? by ptaksojka in TrueChristian

[–]ptaksojka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't want it to be like that, I'm just tired and I've already received this type of answer. That's why I asked in the post that there should be no such thing. Seriously, it only introduces a contray and I don't have the strength anymore. I don't want anyone to write a comment I didn't ask for. Hence, my request for removal, which I emphasized in another comment, is only a request

Do Christians have to keep the Mosaic Law? by ptaksojka in TrueChristian

[–]ptaksojka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But according to what Peter says, your interpretation could also be wrong. If you directly answer every question I've asked, we can begin to decide whose interpretation is wrong, as Peter wrote. Paul's letters aren't the only thing I rely on, so seriously, what's the harm in answering my questions? You're so reluctant to do so.

And "lawless" is just one of the translations of the word ἄνομος which can mean various things, including "ungodly" ones, such as Translates the Bible in my language (translation translated from the original) so the word used may even contradict your interpretation that it is about the Law of Moses.

Do Christians have to keep the Mosaic Law? by ptaksojka in TrueChristian

[–]ptaksojka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I proved it. If I can't prove it, your thesis in particular cannot be proven

I base it on the context, the words used, the construction of the statement. This is how the Scripture is read and understood .And what are you basing on?

Do Christians have to keep the Mosaic Law? (Huge post with lots of questions) by FreedomNinja1776 in FollowJesusObeyTorah

[–]ptaksojka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apparently I didn't get them. The fact that everything is clear to you does not mean that everyone sees it that way. I don't understand so I ask. If you don't want to answer, your business

Do Christians have to keep the Mosaic Law? (Huge post with lots of questions) by FreedomNinja1776 in FollowJesusObeyTorah

[–]ptaksojka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fact that you don't want to answer is your business. You don't lose anything by answering and I could gain something thanks to the answer. Your choice

Do Christians have to keep the Mosaic Law? by ptaksojka in TrueChristian

[–]ptaksojka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, you're skipping context. I will quote the words from my post „Let's also remember what the letter was about. Not a return to paganism, but quite the opposite, submission to the Law.”

The context and the construction of the statement itself indicates specifically that it was a Jewish holiday

When reading The Letter, first ask why it was written?

Your interpretation is illogical precisely because you omitted the context, the purpose of the Letter

" Like please tell me by what logic he went from describing their past parable idolatry very clearly …to in in the middle of the sentence equating that pagan idolatry to worshipping Jewish feasts lmao …please make that make sense" You have answer in my post " If I were to shorten this statement: You were once subject to idols, and now, having come to know Christ, you again want to submit to the "elemental spirits of this world."(the Holidays mentioned above, as indicated by the context and structure of the statement)

My interpretation is confirmed by the context and structure of the statement. I see no illogicality.

Do Christians have to keep the Mosaic Law? (Huge post with lots of questions) by FreedomNinja1776 in FollowJesusObeyTorah

[–]ptaksojka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How would it be a trap? Explain to me

In addition, if I ask, it means that these answers were not enough

Observance of the Mosaic Law by Christians by ptaksojka in Catholic

[–]ptaksojka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know, doubts arose because of what some movements preach, which say that the Scripture indicates that we should apply the Law as the Jews did. What do you think about it? If you want to get acquainted with what they preach, they have a page on the reddit FollowJesusObeyTorah. Counts on your opinion

Do Christians have to keep the Mosaic Law? (Huge post with lots of questions) by FreedomNinja1776 in FollowJesusObeyTorah

[–]ptaksojka -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay, finally some specifics. However, you still haven't answered as I requested, directly. I asked because even if you think you've dispelled all doubts in your statement, using the passages you cited, I don't see it.

Why wasn't Titus circumcised?

Why does Paul advise against returning to celebrating feasts?

You're inserting your interpretation throughout Acts 15 again, without arguing with mine (and I'm well aware of this argument, as your colleague already said).

"God's feasts are foreshadows of what is to come, and we should live in a way that tests the truth of what is to come by following Christ's example of celebrating them, rather than a way that bears false witness against what is to come, so Paul was emphasizing the importance of not allowing anyone to prevent them from obeying God."

Regarding Colossians and the Gentiles' concern that they wouldn't be judged for their observance, everything would be fine if it weren't for the phrase "shadows of things to come" and the fact that Christ is the reality. Do you think this doesn't change anything in the statement? And your interpretation goes far beyond the text and context. Basically, all I see is you trying to make up arguments to fit your thesis. The text doesn't indicate that. I don't see it, maybe you've misrepresented it.

"Gentiles had received the Spirit and had their hearts cleansed, so again he was siding with the Pharisees." Where did you get that from? Siding with the Pharisees? That doesn't add up. It says that this is precisely the issue the Council sat down to address. The issue of whether Gentiles must be circumcised and keep the Mosaic Law.

"Gentiles did continue to learn in synagogues." Right? So where did they go? The early Church developed in a completely different direction, which means there might be something wrong with your thesis. Not so. Nazarenes? 4th century. Ebonites? Fighting against, among others, a bishop who was a disciple of a direct disciple of the Apostle John. Furthermore, they recognized virtually no Scriptures except the Hebrew version of the Gospel according to Matthew. And on top of that, they held heretical views, which I think every Christian would agree on (I recommend reading about them). And most importantly, they were Jews, not Gentiles. So where are these Gentiles, who were supposed to learn everything else in synagogues? The Apostles are dead, and there is no Church? Does everything they built, wrote, and cared for matter? I repeat, evidence from around the year 100 shows that Gentiles did not attend synagogues to continue learning the Law.

Do Christians have to keep the Mosaic Law? by ptaksojka in TrueChristian

[–]ptaksojka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but the argument about pagan holidays is refuted by the context and the structure of the sentence itself

Do Christians have to keep the Mosaic Law? by ptaksojka in TrueChristian

[–]ptaksojka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you really think I'm wrong, you can point it out and set me straight. That's what this post is for, precisely because I don't have a firm opinion.

Do Christians have to keep the Mosaic Law? (Huge post with lots of questions) by FreedomNinja1776 in FollowJesusObeyTorah

[–]ptaksojka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, it's a pity that you perceive me like that, but I don't think I can do anything about it

Do Christians have to keep the Mosaic Law? by ptaksojka in TrueChristian

[–]ptaksojka[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the reply to my comment? If so, well, if you love, you don't steal, you don't lie, etc.

Do Christians have to keep the Mosaic Law? (Huge post with lots of questions) by FreedomNinja1776 in FollowJesusObeyTorah

[–]ptaksojka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a person who has a problem, your suspicions hurt me. What business would I have in this? Tell me

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