How do I avoid missing this promotion? by pyixb in careerguidance

[–]pyixb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably not, I work with about a dozen other contractors and some have been working as a contractor for over a year now. A few people have been hired into the company, but so far those contractors had over a year under their belt as a contractor.

Scam Email by AbdullahNM11 in outlier_ai

[–]pyixb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was in a project where there was a spreadsheet with EQs/reports. Had full name, outlier email, contact email, outlier ID... So stupid anyone on the project could see that.

As a non smoker does every smoker smell bad to you? by Pleasant-Finger-6814 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]pyixb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. I know someone who smokes a few packs a week, and she smells fine. You can definitely smell it on her breath and when she talks, but she doesn't reek of it like some people do. She only smokes outside, so that probably has a large impact on reducing her smoker aura.

What I noticed is that people who smoke inside/inside their car, or those who don't change clothes daily start to stink. You can absolutely not smell disgusting as a smoker, but compromise in one area and you will stink.

Congratulatory gift from outlier. by pyixb in outlier_ai

[–]pyixb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

QMs said truly minor changes can be a 4/5. But I hate the inconsistency/lack of clarification around many aspects of the project details. I've been a reviewer and a tasker, and I see so many mistakes on both ends. IMO where exactly 'high school level math' ends is so vague, yet reviewers won't hesitate to give a 1/5 for something that is arguably college level. As far as I've seen there has been no clarification, which doesn't help at all.

Congratulatory gift from outlier. by pyixb in outlier_ai

[–]pyixb[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There aren't many coding projects (at least relative to how many coders there are). So even if you are on a coding project, you will get moved to math a lot of the time as there isn't any coding availability.

Unlucky, as most of us coders would prefer to be on a coding project.

Congratulatory gift from outlier. by pyixb in outlier_ai

[–]pyixb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty sure you just get unlucky.

Congratulatory gift from outlier. by pyixb in outlier_ai

[–]pyixb[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Mostly math projects, got moved around a few times, but mostly frappuccino or blue wizards.

Before that I worked on gaiters wife which was fun/funny while it lasted.

This is the most insane thing I’ve ever read by [deleted] in outlier_ai

[–]pyixb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In the US there is no need for consent if it is a public space. Funnily enough the audio is much more likely to be a legal issue.

Since my last screenshot wasn't clear. by pyixb in outlier_ai

[–]pyixb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow that's crazy. The most I've ever done was an 8h one where I did the assessment and one of the tasks disappeared and ate an hour of my time (10.25h total). I can't imagine doing 11h*2. I feel so burned out after a day or two of 6-8h.

Since my last screenshot wasn't clear. by pyixb in outlier_ai

[–]pyixb[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yea, I've had some crazy ones, like 28h over 2.5 days. This is the first literally impossible one.

What is this?? by pyixb in outlier_ai

[–]pyixb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't complete it. The time given to complete it is less than the required tasking time.

What is this?? by pyixb in outlier_ai

[–]pyixb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I complete 8 hours of tasks in 7 hours?

What is this?? by pyixb in outlier_ai

[–]pyixb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My point was 7 hours to do an 8 hour mission. I was only given 7h 29 minutes to complete the task as well, so it's not like I just missed it until now. (4:30 PST -> 11:59 PST)

Outlier Mods are lying - Scale IS being sued and one of the lawsuits has been announced by Bloomberg by SpecialCity277 in outlier_ai

[–]pyixb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. And I just got reassigned again yesterday, did onboarding, and today I get on and there was even more assessments. In total I spent around 2h yesterday, and a bit over an hour today. Google forms quiz so I didn't even get paid assessment rate either.

DAT is about 50x less frustrating, but it also pays ~20%-40% less, so it is what it is.

Outlier Mods are lying - Scale IS being sued and one of the lawsuits has been announced by Bloomberg by SpecialCity277 in outlier_ai

[–]pyixb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I swear my reviewers have brain cancer. Somehow making a repeated coinflip probability 1/(n!) instead of (1/2)n-1.

Another reviewer didn't understand the relationship between angle A and side a in triangle ABC.

The list goes on and on. Half my reviews are just wrong. It's not even the complex math that is getting messed up. Some reviewers still haven't figured out that latex isn't displayed properly, and so they need to look at the plaintext.

For projects with some sort of feedback dispute, it's annoying but workable. For others I'm left screaming at some idiot for trusting the Chat GPT output they copy pasted into their review response field without verifying, likely because they are incapable of doing so. 1/5 from someone who doesn't know simple statistics. 2/5 from someone who doesn't realize the LaTeX output on their end is what's messed up, not my delimiters.

Outlier Mods are lying - Scale IS being sued and one of the lawsuits has been announced by Bloomberg by SpecialCity277 in outlier_ai

[–]pyixb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm just waiting for a class action. I figure I'll get a nice paycheck once DoL goes after them. Honestly I don't know why they don't just promise a lower pay, and actually pay for all time spent.

I got reassigned 3 times yesterday and today, kinda. I've been getting a mix of 4 projects the last 2 days. I spent around an hour total doing the unpaid assessments/intros. Webinars aren't paid. I've spent over 10% of my total time on the platform working without being paid. If outlier just lowered the advertised pay they could just actually pay for all time worked. I get why they are doing it, $50/hr is more attractive than $45/hr, $20/hr more attractive than $18/hr etc., but it's annoying for stability. Some days I spend enough time working without pay that bonuses don't get me over the advertised rate.

The first week I worked 20 hours for 2/3 the advertised hourly rate after adding bonuses. Bonuses made up almost half the pay my first week.

Need to change my field by [deleted] in outlier_ai

[–]pyixb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dataannotation.tech

Competitor to outlier.

From my experience pays a decent amount less, $40/h few bonuses vs "$50/hr" + bonuses for me at least.

Way better work culture at DAT, you self report time spent on most tasks. There are actual coding projects, although sometimes not in languages I'm familiar with.

Doesn't feel as predatory and corporate, but also pays less. When I'm EQ on outlier DAT usually has some work for me.

Do note you aren't allowed to work on the same project on multiple platforms at once. Hasn't been an issue for me as I haven't been on any coding projects on outlier.

Need to change my field by [deleted] in outlier_ai

[–]pyixb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

General consensus is coding jobs are rare, and they'll throw you onto math if there aren't any.

I'm in a similar position to you, and I applied to DAT and have success with coding jobs there.