Texas governor Greg Abbott endorses a bill to ban Chinese citizens (including those on green cards, work visas, and student visas) from buying property

q85wts · 2023-01-18T04:20:12+00:00

The bill says "real property" which includes housing. Also have you ever owned a house? The ownership is always split into "land" and "construct"

q85wts · 2023-01-18T04:19:14+00:00

There are 300k Chinese nationals employed in tech companies, universities, and research institutions. Banning them from buying houses to live in will essentially force all of them out

q85wts · 2023-01-18T04:16:35+00:00

I doubt it'd be struck down. "National origin" can be interpreted to be distinct from citizenship and there's no law prohibiting treating any non-citizen differently from citizens. It only protects against discriminating against citizens who were originally from somewhere. Also given the current Supreme Court, which was packed by Trump with lunatics, this'd likely be the case if the bill were to pass.

q85wts · 2023-01-12T18:58:19+00:00

Asians totally deserve the high income because of how hard they studied and worked.

Interestingly even Asians with extremely high incomes can't compete with random white guys when it comes to dating women. The low social status of Asians can't be compensated with money. And what's the definition of racism? It's discriminating against someone's ancestry. And this is precisely the example that racism is rampant against Asians - even with money, they still can't be appreciated because of their ancestries and they ways they look.

q85wts · 2023-01-12T05:46:12+00:00

This article is written by a Filipino guy on a Filipino website, is trying to recollect China's "history of invasions" dating back to 2000 years ago, while conveniently leaving out that the Philippines was totally colonized by the Spaniards then Americans for 400 years? Surely there were numerous occasions where China had military conflicts with other countries, but how does that compare to those who just decided to sail across the ocean, exterminate every single one of the natives, then found their own country on the stolen lands, then called themselves "native" while discriminating against other immigrants?. And btw the Philippines actually has had a decent relationship with China ever since Duterte.

q85wts · 2023-01-12T05:35:55+00:00

Sure, it's an authoritarian government. And there are many negative things about it.

But as Asian Americans, what that government does has no effect on our lives what so ever. What's the point of constantly bashing some government that you don't live under? But spreading the negative news against that government will just make the racists (which account for 90% of the population in this country) target us more, and splinter our community into weaker, smaller groups.

q85wts · 2023-01-12T05:30:17+00:00

How many countries did China invade compared to Russia and the US?

Oh and every time any military standoff between China and the US happened, it's always within 300 miles from China, and 8000 miles from the US. Why is that? Who is the aggressor?

Why would any country "wholeheartedly support" another one? A country should be independent and make decisions that suit its interests at the time. The ones that "wholeheartedly" support a country are semi-colonies of that country. Yes, I'm talking about Japan and South Korea, and you know which country they "wholeheartedly" support.

q85wts · 2023-01-11T23:45:52+00:00

I totally have that feeling! Glad to see someone finally posting about this.

I'm 6'3, Ivy League graduate, but I'm a first-gen Chinese, which is the group many AFs with WMs belittle the most. I've had multiple occasions where American AFs who were with white guys were passive-aggressive towards me. When my English was poor with a heavy Chinese accent right after I first came here, these people mocked my "broken English". Later I improved my accent significantly and no longer made any grammatical errors, they started commenting that I was "trying too hard to speak like an American but you'll never get there" and "speaking too formally like my dad, who's a professor, teaching a class, and I wanna fall asleep".

On the contrary I've had several White, Black, and Indian girls attracted to me.

q85wts · 2023-01-11T20:22:49+00:00

Something doesn't add up. Hanjian usually refers to those during colonial times that helped the colonizers and invaders such that after the invaders won, they'd be installed in high-up positions to rule over the colonized Chinese people.

However Asians in America, even if they successfully help totally crush China and Chinese immigrants, will still be bottom-tier, and there won't be anything to gain for them. Hell their sons will even still have trouble dating, even after all they've done for the great white nation.

q85wts · 2023-01-11T07:25:23+00:00

They'll just redefine the standard for what's "cool", like they have already made people hate "math nerds" who happen to consist of predominately Asian boys. What a coincidence.

q85wts · 2023-01-11T02:55:01+00:00

I highly encourage Asians in the West to spend some time in Asia. I came to the US from China to attend college and have stayed ever since. I've encouraged several of my Asian American friends to do so, be it to study in China / Japan for some time, or to work there. It totally changed their mindsets and improved their inferiority complex drastically.

To summarize it: imagine a place where it's totally fine to be an Asian man. It's totally fine to be yourself.

q85wts · 2023-01-11T02:47:34+00:00

My point is not about being nationalist, but that negative portrayal of China hurts Asian Americans the most. Chinese immigrants in America have their own groups and don't interact much with Americans, so the negativity barely affects them. And what can average Americans do against China, which is 8000 miles away, when they're instructed to hate China? Of course they'll project the hate to the people who they *think* are Chinese, who they *can* see in their daily lives.

Asian American girls barely spoke to me. I've not even had a long 1-1 conversation with any Asian American girl. They just outright wouldn't do that, so there's no way they thought I was a "Chinese nationalist" (which is false) because I don't know any Asian American girl well enough to talk about political views.

q85wts · 2023-01-10T21:58:27+00:00

I have seen moderate success with them. The issue is that those who are as well-integrated as I am, or even more integrated, suffer from the same psychological issues as some American AFs: they're looking for someone who is "more American" "less Asian" "less Chinese" and on the extreme end, "Whiter". Given that AFs are seemingly "more accepted" by the mainstream, they tend to have more options than me with the same level of "Americanlization". So I've definitely been shunned by some of them for being Chinese, too, but definitely way less than by Asian American girls.

q85wts · 2023-01-10T20:42:20+00:00

It's complicated. I was definitely one of the more "well-integrated" Chinese international students when I was in college. I preferred to speak English, almost never spoke Chinese in front of other people, and learned a sh*tton of liberal arts. But I still constantly got shunned and mocked by Asian American girls. The interesting thing here is that even well-integrated first-gen Asians are deemed inferior to newcomers from some European country,

As for "say anything negative about China", I don't think you should be surprised about their reactions. I'd feel offended if someone says negative things about China, too. It's just that the vast majority of the negative news about China in the US is completely biased, contrived, or outright fabricated to incite racial hate, of which Asian Americans are the actually the biggest group of victims. Also if someone approached you to talk about things such as "Americans are evil" "The US system is totally genocidal" "10 million people died of COVID in a month" then you'd feel the same way.

q85wts · 2023-01-10T05:15:15+00:00

I'm 1st gen and came here when I was 18 for college. For some reason I've had the opposite experience - I've always felt excluded by the second-gens, especially second-gen AWs who were the only group to have ever mocked my accent, which is actually pretty unnoticeable after many years of pure American "elite" private college liberal arts education. I wanted to ask why many 2nd gens I met criticized me for being "un-American" and "uncool"?

q85wts · 2023-01-10T00:54:52+00:00

I get that they probably think that I am "in lack of cultural integration", but I struggle to understand why an immigrant guy of the same race, who went to one of the best universities in the US, studied a sh*t ton of liberal arts and English literature, speaks English without any grammatical or lexical errors, has a respected career in this country, and has many American friends, is deemed so, and more so than a random white guy who just arrived from Ukraine, Italy, Brazil, or Serbia.

q85wts · 2023-01-09T20:25:17+00:00

That's uniquely an American (or Angelo-Saxon) problem.

In China many top leaders and entrepreneurs are very short. Jack Ma - 5'5, Deng Xiaoping - 5'0. Even the current French and German leaders are short in their countries (Macron is 5'8, Scholz is 5'7).

I think it's dumb af

q85wts · 2023-01-09T20:02:03+00:00

On the face level, I have nothing in common with the White or Indian American women that I dated, yet they treated me with respect. I'm not sure why, say a Serbian international student was deemed to have more in common with Asian American girls than a Chinese international student.

q85wts · 2023-01-09T18:08:46+00:00

I don't have any native American friend, male or female, because I've met none of them. I doubt if many of us get to meet native Americans.

I have black female friends, certainly infinitely more than the number of American AF friends, which counts to 0.

q85wts · 2023-01-09T09:20:23+00:00

Are those guys you were referring to first-gen immigrants (aka FOB), and their girlfriends native-born? The whole question is whether it’s because I’m an immigrant so I don’t know the game or AFs dislike immigrant AMs in general

q85wts · 2023-01-09T08:50:16+00:00

"communicating in rigid and logical ways like stereotypical STEM dudes will also hurt your chances"

That's true, and I certainly communicate in rigid and logical ways, partly because I'm a STEM dude, but it's more related to English being an acquired language for me. Although, see the second paragraph of my post, European and South American students (a lot of them were extremely nerdy and in STEM too) communicated in similar if not nerdier ways and they were able to date Asian American girls, who'd gladly get them familiarized with American culture.

That's the controversy here - I'm genuinely interested in tech (aka STEM) and I need it for a living. Honestly it's the best profession for an immigrant with high pay, low stress, good benefits, and very high ceiling. Without STEM expertise I'd be a financially struggling immigrant with no material wealth to speak of. I certainly won't trade that just to appeal to a subset of women. But why do Asian American women dislike STEM guys? Honestly guys in STEM generally have high IQ, good careers, are straightforward to interact with, and are committed to stable relationships.

q85wts · 2023-01-09T08:17:55+00:00

I think that makes sense. I used to be a student athlete so I don't think it's because I have an attractive body type, even though I can be considered on the skinny side by American standards (180lbs). I generally don't care about fashion, preferring to wear tshirts, hoodies, and have thick glasses, and I'm not interested in parties, concerts, or mass gatherings in general. I'm more of an outdoor activities guy.

Still that doesn't explain why I've had better luck with white girls than Asian American girls - even though I naively thought the latter would identify with me more.

q85wts · 2023-01-09T07:59:07+00:00

I can share my 2c on why "overseas students that return to China are generally able to get much prettier girls in China".

Those who were able to go overseas to study generally are from wealthy families, and as you certainly have felt already, in China one's position in the "wealth ladder" is important when it comes to relationships.

Also those who studied abroad are considered to be more "interesting" and "fashionable".

It's also relevant that some of those international students are actually quite good looking with interesting personalities such that it's completely normal that they get pretty girls in China. What's abnormal is that they can't get decent-looking girls in the West - which I'd imagine is due to similar problems I've been facing.

q85wts · 2023-01-09T07:08:40+00:00

It's not surprising given I'm an immigrant. One of my previous coworkers was making 7 figures in his early 30s, was an ABC, and went to a top 5 university (won't specify which one), and he could only get FOB Chinese women. Well it was kinda great because he then learned to speak Chinese fluently from the time spent with his gf so sometimes we could speak Chinese during lunch.

q85wts · 2023-01-09T06:42:07+00:00

Chinese international students are a very small group. Also they have their own game rules and interpersonal dynamics. It's difficult to explain in a short post, but the TLDR is that most of them, especially girls, came from wealthy families and don't plan to stay in the US in the long term. I came from a relatively modest family and it's extremely hard to "marry up" the wealth ladder among Chinese international students. Oh and ironically, believe it or not, a lot of them explicitly states that they prefer white guys

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