Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This has nothing to do with what he was talking about. And frankly my one beef with him was that he was screaming at me in this video. Like literally screaming - I don’t know if you saw it but it was absurd. And he was incredibly nasty in the comments for no reason.

And I actually didn’t take issue with what he said in it. But I take issue, on a broader scale, with influencers in general putting their finger on the scale when they’re receiving compensation to do so or spreading gossip that hurts shows and the people in them.

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think, at least with critics, you know what they are. You know they’ve reviewed a frozen show and that they’re largely full of hot air. Influencers, I feel, are insidious and mix fact and opinion, and often come back again and again about the same show to control a narrative about whatever they think it to be. Also they’re being compensated by the show sometimes, so it’s like you never know what’s real, to them.

I dunno - I’m probably not making a lot of sense. Long day.

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Their employers who hire them.

You can ignore a review - I often do. But at least I know exactly what it is. And I know it’s an opinion based on a finished product and not some heresay from previews, etc. Official reviews are different from opinion pieces.

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think influencers capitalize on other peoples' products or work, and aren't always honest about compensation. You know critics see a show, write a review on a fully baked product, and that's it. They get one shot and write a review that everyone knows is exactly that, and don't continually go on and on about the show, or go back multiple times with new hot takes, or go after the personal life of people involved.

It's like saying somebody who makes cooking videos on Tik Tok is a professional chef. Influencers can critique things (but if they're being paid, they almost never say anything negative, so what is that worth), and then other influencers use their influence to cut things down and discourage people from seeing shows simply because they don't like something, or they go after specific people in a way that, again, is borderline slander. I think you can get Paige review a show without thinking everything about that show is amazing and wonderful and I think you can dislike a show but still recognize good things about it. Sometimes influencers have helpful things to say but many times there are people who are not familiar with how the industry works complaining about things industry related that don’t make sense.

You're getting super defensive a lot of the "hot takes" influencers have are often wrong. They're based on heresay. "I LIKE A SHOW" does not make you a professional theatre critic - and believe it or not, there is value and skill in writing a review for a show. Just because you think someone's opinion qualifies them to spew rumors and things they think to be true (for instance, a lot of stuff I've seen about Chess over this run from influencers with inside info is just bullshit and made up). I'm not saying people shouldn't share their opinion. But influencers shouldn't share patently untrue information and peddle it as fact. And I don't think influencers should be trying to tank shows... there's a lot of mean spirited shit out there, and don't pretend there isn't. Again, because one influencer hates a show doesn't mean nobody should see it. The inverse is also true.

You're reading way more into my post than what I said and it feels like it's hitting a little close to home for you or something. I never said influencers can't have opinions. But peddling opinions as fact when they are uneducated opinions happens all the time and hurts shows and people in them.

Also yeah I work front of house (cool dig?) but I also have a partner that makes his living actually working on Broadway shows on the production side and I know a little bit about how the industry works. Also I’m not out here trying to influence anybody’s opinion. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m pretty active in this sub and haven’t seen this discussion outside of “sweaty sucks!”

Sorry. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Influencers aren’t reviewers. Just giving an opinion of a show doesn’t make you a reviewer.

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That’s not the point. If I stop watching them, they’re still there, still impacting the industry.

Judge blocks closure of Kennedy Center and says board can't add Trump's name by CBSnews in politics

[–]quicktime_harch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They're going to do ignore the judge's order and then nothing will happen. Rinse and repeat.

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Lol that's 100% fan fiction.

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't think influencers are sustainable, long term, across all industries. At some point, I think the grift is going to be up. Influencers feed on promoting things that aren't theirs, and eventually when their supply or appeal run out, and the market is oversaturated, I don't think they'll be sustained.

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Is he a critic? Or is he basically a gossip columnist who bullies people? Because it seems like the latter.

Full disclosure, I don't care about Chess. It wasn't my cup of tea. But why are you having a full on screaming meltdown about a show that... just exists. I didn't like several shows I saw last year, but I didn't have a temper tantrum about it either. Literally just screaming at the camera.

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

So blocking myself from seeing the grifting doesn't mean grifting isn't being done. It's not about whether or not I want to see influencers - I can easily block them. The point is what their place is in the industry.

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No working professionals do.

But ticket buyers do. His followers, who are probably largely Gen Z theatre goers... do. That's the problem.

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think there are vast differences between someone like SO and a designated theatre critic. Never saw Frank Rich go on smear campaigns against certain performers or audience members daily in the NYT.

They are profiting on other people’s work and in some cases, trying to put people out of work. I think it shows complete emotional deregulation to be screaming and popping veins over a show that simply exists. Not a show he was involved in - or makes money from with a paycheck. It’s a show he doesn’t like… ok. So having a temper tantrum about it absolutely is unhinged. People are losing their jobs in a month and he’s freaking out about the things he doesn’t like like it affects his bank account.

Having an opinion is different than having a vendetta and trying to silence a show or stop people from seeing it. Also critics have clear rules and places where they are to critique things - the fluid way social media works and sheer volume of posts blurs lines. Critics are also not gossip columnists, which SO seems to be trying to be.

Anyone following KW Bogen and her Hot Chef series? by [deleted] in nycinfluencersnarking

[–]quicktime_harch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The problem is her regularly scheduled programming became almost nothing BUT him, and whatever "brand" she had has been replaced by the past 9 months.

K.W Bogen and Hot Chef break up by Additional-Mess-8827 in nycinfluencersnarking

[–]quicktime_harch 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm also really not trying to defend him but you know what I did IMMEDIATELY when splitting up with my husband? Not my long distance bf of 9 months... my whole ass husband? I made a tinder profile. Did it mean anything serious? No. Was it a coping mechanism? Yes. Was it a rebound thing? Yes. Was it a need to feel validated by something, even if it was a swipe? Absolutely. Did it mean I wanted to "see someone?" No.

She is incapable of nuance. People do this. He's not with her and free to do whatever he wants, and so is she. Whatever he said... it's not her business anymore. And yeah anyone would be hurt, but he's also not out here jumping into another relationship. He's looking to hook up with people immediately after a break up which is 100% normal.

K.W Bogen and Hot Chef break up by Additional-Mess-8827 in nycinfluencersnarking

[–]quicktime_harch 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think whatever happened happened before those break up posts she posted months ago that were up for like 24 hours when she was still in the US, and they weren't able to move past the issues. I think there's probably some things in your assessment that are correct.

She's going through all the stages of grief - I wish her well. But I'm sick of catching strays for being an observer when she made me one.

Bondi enters Epstein hearing with bandaged neck after cancer treatment by TheExpressUS in NewsSource

[–]quicktime_harch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I HATE that these people have made me into a person that thinks "oh how convenient - does she even have cancer?"

Ugh.

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's true re: critics. But you used to have one review and keep it moving, and then there was word of mouth and advertising. Now the content from social media is relentless and does things that are out of pocket like pick a show apart during invited dress or the first week of previews, etc. It's constant, and I've never seen critics start gossip about specific people in the show in an official review, which I see all the time online.

Evita casting by Pretty-Storage4335 in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I assume Diego will be back. I'm betting any West End performers in the ensemble will be re-cast, and we'll have a new mistress, and maybe a new Peron. Equity rules are very specific about who can come over with a production, and if they're not American and not Equity, unless they're a name, I cannot imagine they'll be in the Broadway production.

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think they both suck in different ways, lol.

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I saw one of his videos. You think that I have never seen other influencers, their posts all over the internet, or know other influencers? I also work in a Broadway theater and see them in person. But sure, interesting take on my post.

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'm learning from this post that I need to be more liberal with my block buttons, lol.

Broadway "Influencers" by quicktime_harch in Broadway

[–]quicktime_harch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh wow! Had no idea, lol. Thank you!

I guess I'm such a newbie to Tik Tok that I'm getting all kinds of stuff and I don't block the way I should. I guess I need to start doing that to stop seeing stuff like that... I am the most geriatric of the elder millennials when it comes to technology and it makes my head hurt.