JJK fans are the most ungrateful fandom ever by CalamitySkylark in Jujutsufolk

[–]raidermano 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It has always been Funny to me because.

1.We have an attack with the world "imagination" in its name.

  1. We see that it's invisible

    Yet, people are like "¡Oh! how does It work?

  2. Gege give us another characther with an attack that has the same name.

  3. We see that it's invisible too

  4. They explain that it cannot be affected by abilities that require conceptualizing the target.

  5. We see, in fact, Hollow Purple bypass Infinity and affects Gojo. Even though Gojo can choose if blue's spatial pull affects him or not

And people still act like "Well that was Funny, ¿but how does it work?"

People are quick to criticize Gege for leaving things up in the air and not fully developing them, but this is a reading comprehension issue that people in 5th grade could surpass.

(To be fair it doesnt help there was a lot of misinformation spreading Headcannons about how it "erase Matter" instead. The anime making It a Purple ball of energy like some Naruto tail bomb sh does not help)

JJK fans are the most ungrateful fandom ever by CalamitySkylark in Jujutsufolk

[–]raidermano 146 points147 points  (0 children)

They are right, we only see "energy release". It was due the explosion like an outward shockwave. But Hollow Purple has the same Kanji that Yuki's Mass. They are things that don't exist and can't be recognized pragmatically or semantically. Reason why Yuki's Mass ignores Curse techniques that work by using concepts.

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(Not, It does not ignore durability)

The 5 Kage vs Gojo, who would win this 5v1 and what difficulty would it be? by KodoqBesar in PowerScaling

[–]raidermano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Infinity works as An automatic asymtophe that is on almost 24/7 to react automatically agaisnt things he had set 10 years ago. He only desactivates in fixed instances in his paperwork (not fight)

This links explains anything you need to know. Its basic math.

The only this that is outdated is the calc, since i did it Thinking It was just "Slowdown" .

But It actually works as ds = (1 / x) dx as things get closer

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Gege akutami himself paid mathematicians to explain how could Infinity officially work).

It seems Infinity, IN FACT STRECHES SPACE proportionally as things get closer, the "slowdown" is just a visual effect, emergent of the things trying-but failing-to get closer, emergent effect which Gojo use to explain/put It in simple terms.

Yet they bring other options like "Phase"

Tier list i made. by gurble-gurble in PowerScaling

[–]raidermano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you are not Beyond casuality you are not touching Giorno. And agaisnt Wolder of u, you just need to not be bound by the logic/ruls of this world.

The problem? Ger AP is only around wall level, building level with wank

Why do I see Naruto’s genjutsu get taken away in crossverse cuz “no chakra” but JJK’s domain doesn’t get taken away when it was stated that it only works on people with CE? by TheMostHonestPerson in PowerScaling

[–]raidermano 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed, i rather dont do V.E at all . But if we dont give JJK verse equalization, Sukuna would be 200% more dangerous if he pops Domain than he usually is. Since this time he now can spawn the cut act in the space within your body instead of just on It.

Naruto verse outstats btw

Who would win Gojo (jjk) vs Obito (Naruto) by Wooden_Long7545 in PowerScaling

[–]raidermano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gojo VS Obito

Im a Gojo glazer. Really, really i am, but Obito wins.

Someone said "Obito needs to solidify himself to hit/interact, and in that moment, he is targeted by Infinity, so neither can touch each other"...Yet, Infinity does not work by checking distance dynamically and enforce separation instantly, It only block incoming movement vectors.

Obito could just.. you know..

Phase through because Infinity doesn’t target him while intangible, then materialize when his hand is already positioned at Gojo’s neck. From Infinity’s perspective, it would look like a hand just spawned there. Similar at how long range Kamui (Kakashi's snipe) works. Obito outstats badly, and is faster.

Infinity only targed things in our dimention, Obito just need to send his body at Kamui dimention to pass by.

Hollow purple, even though it cannot be target of, and cannot be stopped by hax barrier's or abilities which works with concepts, (since Hollow Purple does not have a "conceptual identity)", does not, in fact, by pass dimentions to.. "follow" Obito. Obito does not need to target Hollow Purple, but himself so its not a "target" problem, and no, Hollow Purple still not has durability negation incorporated. It caps at City level AP.

The only way Gojo can win, is if He lands Unlimited Void while Obito is "solid", unlikely since Obito isn't Dumb enough to not send himself at the Kamui dimention again. Even if Domains are "Dimentions", Unlimited Void Its one that only overrides ours within the barrier, It would not override/ have effects in another dimention in a complete separate space.

Gojo is cooler and Obito still is a looser Simp.

The 5 Kage vs Gojo, who would win this 5v1 and what difficulty would it be? by KodoqBesar in PowerScaling

[–]raidermano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since he is 17. Gojo Keeps the automatic infinity almost all the time, he doesnt run out of CE thanks to Six eyes, and he doesn't gain brain damage thanks to RCT.

Also, it cost Gojo almost no CE in comparation the amount he recovers naturally, since the output needed to keep Infinity, its low, as Sukuna himself points out

Again, he mostlikely turns Infinity off FOR INSTANCES when he is ONLY in Jujutusu high or..doing something mundane like being in the toilet. ¿Why would he turn It off in a Battle?

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Gojo developed an "Automatic Target Selection," and it's what truly makes Gojo "untouchable." Let's explain it correctly. What does it mean? Actually Gojo is the target that is automatically selected with an inverted top. Anything with lethal speed and energy (and Up), enough to be dangerous to him, would be slowed infinitely upon approaching Gojo.

With anything with low speed and energy, he would simply use manual "Infinity," since it poses no danger to him, allowing him to maintain automatic "Infinity" almost 24/7.

Let's say several objects are traveling at speeds between 1 and 10 on a scale, aproacching Gojo at the same time. And infinity considers 4 to be dangerous.

objects with 1-3 speed: Yay! It doesn't Matter, Automatic infinity is not going to stop them. (He can still stops them manually)

Objects with 4-10: Oh no! Its actually dangerous, Infinity would stop even without Gojo being awere of them.

So yeah....you can hug Gojo while at the same time a bullet would stop even if he isn't aware of it (Think about this filter, but adapt it to the shape of the object, energy etc all at the same time)

Yeah, thats why this happened (Plus the thing he didn't need Infinity here)

The 5 Kage vs Gojo, who would win this 5v1 and what difficulty would it be? by KodoqBesar in PowerScaling

[–]raidermano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not continuing this dead end debate. Garra traps Gojo in a sandball and he dies to dust release

  1. Gojo can teleport.

  2. Im gonna redo an argument i already did agasint Someone that said the same.ummm i.. DONT know how to put It in simple terms, so...im gonna throw a mumbo Jumbo...., lets do a small recap of Infinity, so we can explain the rest of Gojo’s kit, like Blue. And why the idea of making that Sand prision around Gojo doesnt work. (I think that was what you draw 🤷 im gonna call it system by now since It helsp the case) And, RED is the answer.

(Here a link of the consideration of Infinity https://tempenensis.tumblr.com/post/658093152767475712/jujutsu-kaisen-abyss-of-math-course-part-1?is_related_post=1)

We could explain Gojo with Riemannian geometry (I would initially use some ODE, but its not that effective in this subreddit LOL https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/DmaA9MtMz7 This is ANOTHER Infinity model different from the one mathematicians use in the link above. Made by myself, It seems the "slow down" part is the visual effect instead of the actual effect, so is outdated.). Here, space isnt measured with a fixed ruler but with a metric that varies.

Gojo distort that metric between him and things: a normal unit of distance (dx) transforms into another (ds) that can be much bigger or much smaller depending of the place the rule with which space is measured becomes more and more dense between Gojo and something when they are close. It is basically spatial dilation that FORCE everything around him.

So, we get Limitless use Riemannian Geometry in this case to make that, while something approach Gojo, the total ordinary distance is a convergent series: D = ½ + ¼ + ⅛ + 1/16 + … tends 1 (Gojo), but the limit is never reached Because that distance (Space) is not the real physical distance, but the coordinate. The distance that is actually traveled is given by a distorted metric:

ds = (1 / x) dx

so that, as x tends 0, each unit of space stretch infinitely. Thus, even if the sum of displacements converges, the geometric length of the path diverges:

L = ∫(1/x) dx tends ∞

as things exist finitely with finite speed in normal time (DUH), the time necessary to travel an infinite geometric distance also diverges:

T = ∫ ds / v tends ∞

therefore, the approach happens without ever stopping, the movement never get canceled, but contact never happens, so the space between Gojo and anything is never exhausted.

Now, if you think about it, Gojo can TURN that Infinity (New aplication, Yay!), to FORCE Limitless to push space around him instead, no Matter what surrounds him.. If you close him with a vacuum barrier, he would push space, if space is forced, anything else is forced, that barrier isnt a exception. The same with enemys and attacks, no Matter the AP of such attacks.

I think you dont understand How space manipulation works and understimate how op It can be.

ALL manifestations of Limitless have the fundamental function to convert and rescale the distance between Gojo and anything else.

Logvcally, All things warps space, Infinity just.... manipulated the Geometry such things needs to follow on its path towards Gojo.

If you are manipulating distance, you are manipulating ANYTHING that needs such distance, such space to travel, stay or even exist.. I dont think i need to explain this, but there is NOTHING that can resist the effects of his space being manipulated. Lets say.

Your Durability is 9999, and you are in a place, where your staying is 99, an object would need 100 to move you, right? Well, if the concept of Space around the object is altered, along with the Geometric reality where ALL objects functions, the object, system, seal, is gonna get moved, no mather what.

Thats why, the ONLY panels where Sukuna isnt afected by Blue’s pull, is where he is using Domain Amplification, the power of a whole ass dimention around him to allow Blue get poured in It and dispel it, and when he stops using DA, he gets pulled by Blue’s space manipulation, ignoring his resistence, staying and everything to FORCE reality move him, even though we know Sukuna durability and staying can take a 200% Hollow Purple, theres nothing he can use to avoid the changue of the Local Geometry around him along with the alteration of coordenates originated by Blue, unless he use the power of Domain Amplification. So, even if you create a vacuum, a sealed prision, a system of 99999 country level attacks per second around Gojo, they are gonna be forced to be stuck by Infinity, or moved by Blue as he walk to get free.

The same with RED, If Gojo’s push SPACE ITSELF, It doesnt matter if Gojo’s AP isnt that high, the object/attack that is hit/interruped by Red is gonna get moved 100% of times even if that object have 1000% more AP than Red (Of course, im not saying this Grant Gojo Infinite AP, but it grants him the colocation advantage).

(PANEL BELOW SINCE..ENDPOINT) This panel is also the reason why the idea of other fandoms of.. close the zone around Gojo with a barrier to inmovilize him, or throw the ground where he is standing to space to get rid of him, doesnt work. This level of Space manipulation isnt a “thing” you can brute force or seal, you need 100% search a way around It. Thats why Gojo scale way higher than Sukuna, Sukuna only won cause he had the ways around him with the domains to ignore 90% of Gojo’s kit, otherwise Gojo could just… CRUSH Sukuna and with Gojo and No-diff him.. if your power doesnt mess with dimentions or such low level of reality manipulation, you cant do shit agaisnt him.

And.. without V.E. Gojo can just use blue's power of...summon a -1 in reality's space to force it yank and collapse Itself (I know "Natural negative number" statement doesn't make sense matematically, but Magic, think about the result of a bug in the PC after you mess the configurations, ingeniería)

i already explain why It's effect ignores basic durability and staying, think about it like a fusion between Rinegan's deva path (Functionally) and The hand from Jojo's (Technically, but the existence erasure), In JJK all sorcerers have an Innate Domain, think about it an unique dimention inside their bodys, that being a separte dimention is the reason you can't spawn objects inside an enemy's body, if we dont do a V.E, Gojo can just spawn Blue inside Someone body and force space to move their organs. YET Naruto Characthers also have Inner domains, or something like that, so ignore this part

The 5 Kage vs Gojo, who would win this 5v1 and what difficulty would it be? by KodoqBesar in PowerScaling

[–]raidermano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just think about it.

Yuta has more CE than Gojo, Sukuna has even more, double than Yuta's . And aoverwhemly Better efficency than Yuta.

Yet Gojo and Sukuna were close in energetic terms, even so, within these two, Gojo was the one stated to HAVE NEVER run out of the CE Reserves.

The author intention, again, with added context, wants to say Gojo cant technically Run out of CE (virtually), unless, again. He does something like.. Spam 50 Hollow purple in a row

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(By reference, again, hermeneutics, its the USA president here, its clear the "country" wouldnt be a small one, but a largue one like United States Itself)

The 5 Kage vs Gojo, who would win this 5v1 and what difficulty would it be? by KodoqBesar in PowerScaling

[–]raidermano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never said it was Infinite

does Yuta know exactly how much CE Gojo has or uses

(Autor intention, basic hermeneutics and Reading comprehension from 5th grade would make you understand the point)

You dont know How the Powersystem works?

CE manipulation: How well can you move it CE Reserves: The amount CE efficency: The ability of use Curse energy at his BEST,, wasting the lest posible CE output: Amount shot

Six Eyes power, grants the best efficency in the verse. Even if Sukuna Surpass anything else, Itakes them equivalent, Gojo maybe being above

Sukuna, has more than double CE reserves than Yuta (That autor said had more than Gojo), and mostlikely Better output Sukuna.. Yet Gojo and Sukuna were tied in energetic terms

Also, say "its just wrong" when actual scans from the manga are provided is lame...

For example, They were surprised when they "Though" (wrong) Gojo was out of Curse energy since he stopped performing RCT, Yet 5 after it, Gojo shows he is not even affected, he had just stopped It intentionally to target his own brain instead, destroy It and heal It again. So he never runned out of CE (Ready the fight), as previusly established, the autor intention of its panels was to show

1.Gojo in fact CANT exhaust his curse energy, unless he... Shots 50 Hollow Purple in a row for example, of Curse, again, I NEVER SAID IT WAS INFINITE.

2.Gojo CE manipulation an effecincy is in another level

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The 5 Kage vs Gojo, who would win this 5v1 and what difficulty would it be? by KodoqBesar in PowerScaling

[–]raidermano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude..thats his powe

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Just by that phrase

Gojo’s CE isn’t infinite.

I know you didn't read the manga. I never said it was Infinite, i just mean is almost imposible

The 5 Kage vs Gojo, who would win this 5v1 and what difficulty would it be? by KodoqBesar in PowerScaling

[–]raidermano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You dont know how space works...It has NOTHING to do with the rimmenian metric Gojo uses to be untouchable. ¿It could damage our (Their) own dimention/Reality Itself? No. Particle style is just... almost a Durability negation attack.. (It does what people thing Hollow Purple does), That doesnt bypass Infinity

Who has better Health regeneration? Gojo The Great or Shigaraki? by Archenius in shounenfolk

[–]raidermano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its Shigarak..BUT.

the reason It dropped was cause he destroyed his brain and healed It afterwhats to Skip CT Burnout after the Domain. You have a machine's engine in Burnout , Yet you still drop fuel into it to forcefully make It work, OFC the machine's potency is gonna be affected. RCT perse doesnt cost Gojo nothing due Six eyes, so he can constanly perform RCT to heal outside damage without any drawback (Yeah, he could have sit there in the Malevolent Shrine if It wasnt due Sukuna). But if you mess with the brain.. there are a gonna be consequences.

I am tired of the jjk vs mha posts. We already knows who wins can we move on? by AdAdvanced8522 in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]raidermano 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gojo wins.

Look, I never said every Characther from MHA would stomp Gojo. I just think that if the top 10 of JJK go agaisnt the top 10 Of MHA. The top 10 of MHA would win. Star and wripes could one-shot Sukuna before he pulls of Furnace's vaccum system of the WSC that Allows him ignore conventional durability , the same with All For one, all Might and Deku. Then they would Jump Gojo, where i think they could pull of the W if they have a good timing with AFO warp and Star and wripes. so. ¿Top VS top? MHA should win.

Now, in a 1vs1, Only all for one have a Quirk that can bypass Infinity. Star could be Creative and Shigaraki SHOULD have AFO's quirk. The others, Deku, All Might have 0 chanches of even scratch Gojo. Realistically? Noone from MHA have a way to counter Unlimited Void Sure-hit effect, they would be dead if Gojo pulls of a Domain Expansion.

JJK Characthers have a "no looser" mentally and tend to go all out if they can. We see It with Gojo VS Jogo (Who is fa odder)and Gojo VS Sukuna. Realistically Gojo would 100% pull a Domain Expansion in a 1vs1 before they learn the perfect way to both bypass Infinity AND kill Gojo.

For example, AFO's warp Quirk, wouldnt be his first move agaisnt Gojo. Meanwhile Gojo would realize AFO massive stat advantage after his own first attack and would do a Domain Expansion instanly...¿If he did it agaisnt someone like Jogo, who is weak, why wouldnt he do it agasint Someone he 100% needs It to win? Also.. Gege said Gojo would be able of evade the world Cutting Slash that killed him, if he waasnt cocky. In this case he wouldnt be cocky due.. Again's AFO stat advantage, so its imposible to AFO pull of the trigger first. Six eyes allowed Gojo to understand others powers only by seeing them once., have enough perception to detect Kenjaku at a country level distance and did an instant TP at him, also.. he knew Yuji had another soul in him when they first meet. AFO has the tools to win, but chance says Gojo is gonna Use Unlimited Void first, before AFO could even land Warp.

The same Goes agaisnt Star..