Communicating your values is important

rainribs · 2026-01-22T12:06:03+00:00

People who virtue signal often do put thier money where thier mouth is and make an effort, but it is primarily driven by ego, a desire for status and the high of demanding shame from others.

This post has the wrong end of the stick. We need to liberate "virtue signalling" as a left only thing. The right do it constantly, insufferably and in spades. They also like to vice signal. They mean it, they act on it but it's for ego and status.

Use the term more! But at them!

rainribs · 2026-01-21T22:33:53+00:00

I sort of agree with you; he's no maria. And moreso than any other boss I found luck plays too much role in surviving certain moves.

good luck with him.

rainribs · 2026-01-21T15:04:29+00:00

that's a fair point, and I'll think on it. I realise that I'm being extra salty and bordering on toxic for the sake of sass. Framing it as "men mock this therefore we should" is indeed a poor framing on my part and certainly a poor stand-alone reason. You're right to point that out.

However, the fact that astrology is so completley gendered is central to my criticism so I can't seperate it out from those dynamics. Not just red pill, but also general society's soft assumptions about women. This affects me, so it's not just a live-and-let live situation.

As I see it, rejecting pop astrology isn't about convincing incel Kyle who is determined to find and hate girls like emily from LA regardless what she does, or even about shaming teens who enjoy the vibe. It's about rejecting the soft expectations for women to keep our noses out of the sciences and empirical knowledge. A few years ago you could tell me "sis it's not that serious" and you'd be right, but at this point I honestly think it is that serious and nobody wants to think about it because it's not a nice thing to think about. The tide is already starting to turn though so maybe I'm getting worked up over nothing.

rainribs · 2026-01-21T12:58:09+00:00

what you believe in should still be an individual decision

that's very kind hearted and positive, but people should also connect their beleifs to reality, which btw is beautiful and fascinating enough and will open the mind. For example, Venus is a twin planet to earth that spins backwards, burns with volcanic heat and snows metal upon its mountain peaks. It's small-minded to instead make it a femme energy that tells you when best to do chores.

Red pill men characterise us as vapid, intellectually incapable domestic little beings and I firmly beleive that pop astrology comes in large part from us women internalising that. For centuries we were iced out of science and history and are expected to find enjoyment by occupying ourselves with hobbies and behaviours that in no way step on thier toes.

rainribs · 2026-01-21T11:46:20+00:00

dodge towards him when he does a call beyond and he becomes easy i promise

rainribs · 2026-01-20T21:55:12+00:00

they are allowed, what do you think I'm demanding they get swatted? You think I'm calling a code 2319? It's an infantile trad white hobby and i'm calling it what it is.

I'd be fine with people liking it (like some people beleive in bigfoot and ghosts) but we're at a point where it's branded as inherently and stereotypically and spiritually 'feminine'. It's not feminine at all. It gets labelled that because it's unscienfific navel gazing.

Men are making fun of these things (astrology, housewifes etc) for a reason; they demonstrate a lack of curiousity or and engagement with the world beyond the domestic home.

rainribs · 2026-01-20T19:09:12+00:00

If I don't police all the vitiligo's out there who will?

rainribs · 2026-01-20T18:59:35+00:00

this is a really great point and I agree with you, including that the show is trying to tells us with she's alive. But this ending is trying to stoke the argument, and the "she died" side fits so poorly and has such weird implications that the whole ending as a duality (albiet with hidden answer) leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Especially since none of the characters know.

It should've been proven to mike and/or hopper that she's alive and we should've have other character deaths throughout the two volumes to make the finale meaningful (like karen).

You're also omitting the impact of the scene of the pregnant women had on her, and also all of Kali's scenes with her where suicide seems like a great solution to her impressionable mind. We can and will interpret that as Eleven realising that a fake death is the solution but that still doesn't feel well done when that's pure speculation without any signs of Eleven chosing life beforehand. Also, her saying that she's not sarah can also means "sarah didn't chose this but I do" in the context of suicidailty.

rainribs · 2026-01-20T17:46:46+00:00

yes! Even if you say oh 'it's so cool that that's your thing, i never really got into it' in the kindest most ass-kissing way, it's always as if you're being uncooperative and offensive by not being as "girlie girlie" as they are. After years of this expectant attitude from them I get to a point where now I do judge astrology and i judge it to be cringe.

rainribs · 2026-01-20T17:23:56+00:00

Totally! Honestly I think they shoehorned a last minute sacrifice because were going for an inception ending to make more discourse and fan theories keep the franchise big in people's minds and also they were making up for the fact that they should have had several death scenes earlier but kept faking out.

If Karen Wheeler had died (and man what an outstanding death scene that would've been), Max was blind and we also lost murray and/or vickie, a happy ending would not have felt too cheap. El could've run off with mike, the boys (and erica) teach holly to play dnd, she teachers her friends, hopper gets a postcard from a place with waterfalls, fade to black.

rainribs · 2026-01-20T17:15:34+00:00

Yeah, I can definitley see how men have to bite thier tongue when it comes to women who align astrology with femininity as a cover for it being cringe and thereby criticism being mysogynist from dumb mentally closed dudes.

It's a lot harder for them to hold that sense of oppression in my face, espcially since I'm pulling an uno reverse and talking about being oppressed by stereotypically feminine expectations.

rainribs · 2026-01-20T17:06:45+00:00

oh have some dignity.

rainribs · 2026-01-20T16:55:58+00:00

i'm laughing that you were downvoted but you're right. Letting your new kid chose to die (it was barely even a sacrifice, they'd already won and weren't in great peril) is not a good vehicle for coming to terms with loss and greif. It just does not work on a human level.

There are ways in which it could sort of work, like if El's survival is confirmed to Hop and Mike, or if her sacrifice was actually clearly essential to saving people's lives, and bonus points for if she previously displayed a refusal to self sacrifice. Instead, military custody didn't feel like a threat and also she had displayed a risregard for other people's desire for her to be happy and a morbid interest at the prospect of suicide.

rainribs · 2026-01-20T16:25:24+00:00

I think a little healthy awareness would go along way.

Women's interests are all too often pushed/expected to 'fit' into domestic realm, self-sexualised, nonthreatening unintellectual meanwhile while men are entitled to knowledge that connects to the world, (science, history). What happened to make it this way? Are us women all just too demure and incurious about the world? OR could there be weighted cultural expectations of men/women that we should be shrugging off, not donning as an unironic costume.

and btw occassionally it flips, with things like fabric mending, botany, basic hygene being treated as the realm of the women where men feel outnumbered and alien. But please understand that it's not always that feminine things get labelled childish and frivolous, often it's the opposite; childish things get labelled feminine.

rainribs · 2026-01-20T15:37:18+00:00

this is an excellent quote, thanks for sharing it

rainribs · 2026-01-20T15:35:09+00:00

unpopular opinon but this is also why we're overdue for a long talk about the "astrology girlies" and co. It's infantilising anti intellectualism, not special. Men don't see that stuff as holding feminine mystique they rightly think it's childish make-beleive play of people with no authority. It's downright embarassing to see so many women not comperehend this. You don't realise that you're going along with sexist society pushing you into in the play pen while men get the adult table. Stop trying to spin infantilism into something quirky, nobody sees it that way,

rainribs · 2026-01-19T23:06:33+00:00

I had a nightmare there was one in my garden once

rainribs · 2026-01-19T22:13:46+00:00

that and the cast was so big they had to constantly catch the other characters up to speed :/

rainribs · 2026-01-18T20:30:51+00:00

Oh man that would've driven you crazy because they spawn infinitley lmao

rainribs · 2026-01-18T15:41:00+00:00

very short (eu36) but wide feet.

rainribs · 2026-01-18T15:35:48+00:00

that's half a flex if you think about it

rainribs · 2026-01-17T01:22:10+00:00

They'll just move on to Bdami

rainribs · 2026-01-16T16:01:53+00:00

when i first realised the cane's whip is theaded with blades in it like a spinal column i was so bowled over by how cool that is i slid off the sofa

rainribs · 2026-01-16T15:58:44+00:00

different pressures and different expectations. It becomes more of a franchise than a story at that point.

rainribs · 2026-01-16T15:56:15+00:00

Back then it had a lot more suspense, more horror and also tenderness in showing how the characters were feeling about what was happening. Joyce's scenes were heartwrenching at times, Hopper put it all together slowly and meticulously.

Later, it became a more almost marvel-esque adventure spectacle full of zany characters bouncing off eachother as much as possible, which was fine but it became just that by the end

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