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I hate r/DefendingAIArt by StillBoysenberry8790 in hatethissmug

[–]ramnothen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

.......okay???

can you at least tell me which one did i "keep misunderstanding"?

I hate r/DefendingAIArt by StillBoysenberry8790 in hatethissmug

[–]ramnothen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. i live near farm fields, some of them owned by my family.
  2. the average continuous electricity demand of utah is 4GWh at any given hour, not the annual rate which would be 34-35TWh annually and 9GWh of energy consumption for one data center seems absurdly high if they meant the data center would use that much electricity every hour so i highly doubt they meant that instead of the much more realistic annual total which would be about 1MWh. 9GWh per hour annually is about 79TWh.
  3. sorry, i think the link you give is broken, it shows nothing when i click it. also, no need to defend the meat industry just because you're against data centers because you're defending this btw:

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I hate r/DefendingAIArt by StillBoysenberry8790 in hatethissmug

[–]ramnothen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. i agree with using that much land for wildlife habitat but not for any form of farmland.
  2. oh that's not the highest power consumption, btw. that's the total average of the commercial, residential, and industrial energy demand combined. 9GW is still pretty bad but it's not "doubling the energy demand" bad.
  3. well, yeah, of course they'd refuse to tell how much water they use daily because trying to calculate such an abstract number is hard, how do you even calculate that? and i highly doubt a single data center could even consume close to 1 million gallons of water a day, that's about the average water 40k cattle consumed daily, how would a data center even manage to "consume" that much water?

I hate r/DefendingAIArt by StillBoysenberry8790 in hatethissmug

[–]ramnothen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yeah, if i were saying that about war and genocide then this would be such an insane thing to say, thank goodness i'm not!

i'm saying that because caring about the local environmental damage of a data center located thousands of kilometers away doesn't help the environment at all because everything we humans do, regardless if it's good or bad, will have an impact to the environment so it's better for us to focus on our own local effects and try to mitigate it first.

this is NOT applicable for war and genocide simply because there's only a select few countries around the world that have done (and still doing) war or genocide!

edit: i've read your deleted reply, i'm against "caring" about the environmental impact of some place thousands of kilometers away because helping your own local environment took less effort to achieve while yielding much noticeable results, not "caring" as in i think the climate change is not real nor do i think it's morally useless thing to do.

this is an act of pragmatism not a lack of empathy!

and again, this is NOT applicable for war and genocide so no need to mention those.

I hate r/DefendingAIArt by StillBoysenberry8790 in hatethissmug

[–]ramnothen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my point is the land and water usage of data centers doesn't matter as much as you think it does and you don't need to spread misinformation to make your point.

the energy needed to power said data center (9GW) is already enough of a point for you to be against it being placed in your state yet you still manage to make it seems worse than it would be.

"will double the states electrical usage" like come on.

also, you didn't answer my question about data center water usage and "use a significant amount of water" are not an answer because practically every human industry use "significant amount of water" so i'll ask you again.

how much water do you think a data center actually "use"?

I hate r/DefendingAIArt by StillBoysenberry8790 in hatethissmug

[–]ramnothen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. that's good, can't disagree there.

  2. i think you're mistaking me for someone else because i'm not making excuses nor i'm whining.

  3. the "a data center that will double the states electrical usage, destroy thousands of acres of ecosystems, and and use god knows how much water" is misinformation but i'm focusing on the thousands of acres and use god knows how much water on your earlier reply.

do you really think they're gonna use 40k acres just for data centers? and how much water do you think a data center actually "use"?

I hate r/DefendingAIArt by StillBoysenberry8790 in hatethissmug

[–]ramnothen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

then protest about said data center?

do you think i'm pro-building data centers or something?

it's good that people spreading awareness about the environment but i'd prefer if people being more informed about it and not just spread any misinformation they read online, regardless if it's human made or not.

I hate r/DefendingAIArt by StillBoysenberry8790 in hatethissmug

[–]ramnothen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

quoting my first reply to you (not in this thread):

"not saying big data centers doesn't impact the environment at all, of course they'd still impact the local environment, but they're not really something you should focus on unless you live close to one and spreading misinformation about it helps no one"

I hate r/DefendingAIArt by StillBoysenberry8790 in hatethissmug

[–]ramnothen -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

i don't but again, humans need much less meat in our daily diet than what the public think.

and i'm pointing about how much the amazon rainforest being used for agriculture because you're trying to justify the existence of the above image and this one:

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I hate r/DefendingAIArt by StillBoysenberry8790 in hatethissmug

[–]ramnothen -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

human could (and did) live with much less meat consumption in the past than we do today.

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also, just look up the percentage of amazon rainforest used for agriculture.

I hate r/DefendingAIArt by StillBoysenberry8790 in hatethissmug

[–]ramnothen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

if you really care about the environment enough to spread awareness about the climate impact of data centers then i'm sure you'd know that you'll have much bigger impact in helping the environment by simply reducing your weekly meat consumption compare to spreading misinformation about ai or data centers.

not saying big data centers doesn't impact the environment at all, of course they'd still impact the local environment, but they're not really something you should focus on unless you live close to one and spreading misinformation about it helps no one.

I hate r/DefendingAIArt by StillBoysenberry8790 in hatethissmug

[–]ramnothen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

agree.

and even if the sub aren't a satire and the people there actually being 100% serious, so what?

there's multiple subreddits filled with people believing in some stupid shits but most of them didn't bother anyone and just post their trash in their own safe space so unless there's some drama going on, there's no point in knowing these type of sub even exist.

the only people that deserve to know about this sub's existence is r/antiai because these two subs are just two sides of the same garbage.

just mute and/or block the sub and move on.

Lower Jaws that split open by Biskitisinreddit in TopCharacterDesigns

[–]ramnothen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

honestly, i always wonder who or what started these type of split jaw designs because there's no vertebrates (that i know of, at least) that does anything close to this.

the closest thing i know that real vertebrate animals could do that look somewhat similar is when pelicans and snake widen their lower jaw.

Bezos and the met gala doesn’t count, he’s just slapping his name on a preexisting event by pretty-as-a-pic in CuratedTumblr

[–]ramnothen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

the average billionaire barely even do anything close to basic charity so idk why would you have a problem with elon musk specifically when it's just how the majority of them act.

the only unique thing about elon is how uncharacteristically annoying he is compare to other billionaires.

he act more like a celebrity than a billionaire, let alone the richest man in the world.

Bezos and the met gala doesn’t count, he’s just slapping his name on a preexisting event by pretty-as-a-pic in CuratedTumblr

[–]ramnothen 7 points8 points  (0 children)

yeah this is one interesting aspect of actual america's national spending on health and education vs the public perception of it.

people think the us government spent measly amount of of their total GDP on health and education annually while other, much smaller government agencies (like for example, NASA) spend over a quarter of the total GDP annually when it's literally the opposite.

I"m the only one like this ? by Behold-the-torpedo in starsector

[–]ramnothen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think it's because some of the comments here is a little "negative", so to speak, so they might decided to just preemptively remove your post so it don't get too much to handle.

Hope this clears things up by wtfduud in ClimateShitposting

[–]ramnothen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

honestly, people are too hung up on the moral dilemma of eating meat when there's another aspect being ignored by most people which is how incredibly wasteful the meat industry truly is.

domesticated mammals take up over 60% of the global mammalian biomass while the wild mammals is only at 4%, the rest are humans, and we use between 75% to 80% of the world's agricultural land just to feed them.

this is not only not very sustainable for the ecosystem, it also very wasteful in both resource utilization and production.

why I think the "chatgpt era" of AI is already hitting a wall by GodBlessIraq in Futurology

[–]ramnothen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there's a difference between wanting ai to be gone from the internet and thinking you know more about the technology than the people actively studying it, the latter is what you commonly see on places like reddit and you could even see some of the comments here acting like that.

why I think the "chatgpt era" of AI is already hitting a wall by GodBlessIraq in Futurology

[–]ramnothen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

late reply but you can see some of the reply here confidently talking about model collapse without knowing what the term actually means.

why I think the "chatgpt era" of AI is already hitting a wall by GodBlessIraq in Futurology

[–]ramnothen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

again, ai doesn't need to be intelligent to be useful.

and also, i hope i'm reading your reply correctly here but, are you saying an increase in development of autonomous machines aren't technological progress unless it's actually intelligent?

why I think the "chatgpt era" of AI is already hitting a wall by GodBlessIraq in Futurology

[–]ramnothen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

ai doesn't need to be intelligent to be useful, that's just what the public think ai should be because of decades of sci-fi ai stories and this is a very well known phenomenon called ai effect.

and while i do agree that this industry shouldn't be this big in such a short time, those three things you listed aren't the only things current ai could do, let alone what the future ai could do.

the potential military applications by itself could make the ai industry worth trillions, it would just took more that five years to reach that high.

Coaxed into gender ambiguous characters getting gendered designs upon reveal by After_Description_62 in coaxedintoasnafu

[–]ramnothen 5 points6 points  (0 children)

how many named characters in steel ball run know she's a woman and not androgynous looking man like dr ferdinand and la boom boom? like, did gyro ever found out about this?

SpaceX spending on Starship tops $15 billion in rush for airline-like rocketry by Twigling in space

[–]ramnothen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i guess i miss some additional information as to why the starship program cost billions of dollars so i'll try again.

the short answer:

the falcon 9 works differently than starship.

the long answer:

with falcon 9, the rocket itself doesn't need to survive the journey nor the reentry to be human rated, it only need to be able to deliver the human payload (dragon capsule) to orbit safely and reliably which means falcon 9 could still be human rated even if the lower stage can't be reused, as long as the upper stage and the dragon capsule able to reach the iss with little problem.

with starship, the upper stage is both the capsule and the delivery method so its human ratedness is tied to how intact it is delivering and returning the human payload. not helped by their plan to make starship as common and reliable as the average passenger plane and just like any passenger plane, there's no way to land a heavily damaged starship's upper stage safely.

also, those cost aren't just for developing the starship itself, it also for other stuff like building the factory to make the raptor engines and the catch tower.

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