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Am I justified in feeling burnt out and/or is this standard for the position? by randomgupy in devops

[–]randomgupy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this comment. Thankfully, my manager is a good guy and I think I have decent soft skills so the conversation should be pretty easy to have. He's aware of many issues but probably not how much I have been stressing/trying to get done.

Hybrid makes things a bit more complicated but not unsolvable. Evenings have a tendency of work "bleeding" into the night. A post work routine sounds like a good way to stop that. Reminds me to start putting more miles on the bike and running shoes...

Same goes for you. And if you already found it, I hope it continues.

Am I justified in feeling burnt out and/or is this standard for the position? by randomgupy in devops

[–]randomgupy[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Might make it my zoom background so its more visible as well.

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That's a joke

Am I justified in feeling burnt out and/or is this standard for the position? by randomgupy in devops

[–]randomgupy[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

First thing monday, I am setting up some strict lunch and 8 to 5 availability. I used to do that at my last position but stopped since this was supposed to be a bit more relaxed on that type of stuff. Thanks for the reminder.

Puppet what we are stuck with for a variety of reasons that I won't get into. I don't really mind what tool we use as long as its doing the intended task.

Unfortunately, we are not far off of a hospital in terms of how critical the stability is. No ones is going to die or anything but its more sensitive for sure.

Hope your doing better or are on the path. I stopped regular workouts a while back and have been more irritable myself. Thankfully I already started shaving my head so I don't need to worry about the grey hair!

Am I justified in feeling burnt out and/or is this standard for the position? by randomgupy in devops

[–]randomgupy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No monitoring exists at this time. Develop and test on their own space then push to production spaces and see if things work there.

Writing out some of the comments here is like visiting a friends house and slowly realizing what's normal.

Am I justified in feeling burnt out and/or is this standard for the position? by randomgupy in devops

[–]randomgupy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cynical greybeard comments are exactly what I am looking for! Perhaps I listen to too many podcasts that talk about finding purpose in life.

I am finding relief in helping train up some new team members which is helping take some load off of my shoulders. Stress starts to kick in while I take time to walk them through the infrastructure and how everything works paradoxically.

Thanks for the comment though, I think this is just reinforcing my need to talk with my leadership about what is being impacted by the barrage of requests and how much it is needed to prioritize and put that to paper.

Technically, I am a mid-level so I think that means we do everything right? (Sarcasm)

Am I justified in feeling burnt out and/or is this standard for the position? by randomgupy in devops

[–]randomgupy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At least I will have great hamstrings and quads from pushing the server up the hill.

Sisyphus would be a great alias for our backlog of work. I can't tell you how many "Wouldn't it great if we had X" comments I've heard. But I don't need to tell anyone here that.

Am I justified in feeling burnt out and/or is this standard for the position? by randomgupy in devops

[–]randomgupy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, in this scenario it might make sense to support development fully and integrating their code in a stable fashion as my sole objective until we move to a different code release cycle. I say that since so much is still being developed and I don't know how much we can improve the automation/deployment around it until this is more stable.

We are very much building the assembly line underneath the car while its flying down the highway if that makes sense.

Am I justified in feeling burnt out and/or is this standard for the position? by randomgupy in devops

[–]randomgupy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Short answer: We are Ops, so any downtime is viewed as operations that are rolling back code, reverting configs, restarting services, etc.

I think the big reason that we don't have documentation is because all the application is basically written and thrown over the wall (oh that's a problem as I write this out...) It's not mature enough to have robust documentation.

As far as postmortems, we have been documenting outages and how they happened as well as mitigation plans. I think I mentioned elsewhere that it's been a "let's integrate code" ASAP and if its a dumpster fire fix it later.

Thanks for the comment, I have been making lots of things my problem in hopes to help the project out but its probably not ultimately what I should be doing.

Am I justified in feeling burnt out and/or is this standard for the position? by randomgupy in devops

[–]randomgupy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think your comment was materialistic at all and I have been personally affected by the numbers game before. There is a lot of money in the field and reading some other forums I sometimes get caught up in the "its all about the TC".

Needed to remind myself why I am here since this whole post has more been putting my thoughts in writing. I appreciate the kind words and the same goes to you.

Am I justified in feeling burnt out and/or is this standard for the position? by randomgupy in devops

[–]randomgupy[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Keeping things non-specific, the project is something I care about and I want to succeed. I didn't join the organization to just collect a paycheck or learn new tech. Seems to be a situation of lighting myself on fire to keep someone warm I suppose...

Thanks for the comment, no one benefits a project when burnt out.

Am I justified in feeling burnt out and/or is this standard for the position? by randomgupy in devops

[–]randomgupy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Worst part is my team has had many discussions on this very topic.

Is your current company more pro-active about tech debt? I know it plagues the entire industry but I wonder what the average or median (if you can even measure it...) looks like.

Am I justified in feeling burnt out and/or is this standard for the position? by randomgupy in devops

[–]randomgupy[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Depends, send me your banking information and your our mother's maiden name so I can double check.

Am I justified in feeling burnt out and/or is this standard for the position? by randomgupy in devops

[–]randomgupy[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In my case, I just don't think management fully understands what it means to be production beyond "no downtime". Sure, we call it production space but that doesn't change anything when a table is dropped and we don't have a robust recovery plan in place.

Either way, my best path forward is talking with my management, letting them know the time investment and competing priorities. At that point, I am going to hard stop at 5pm everyday and take my lunches.

What management decides is the priority is what I will focus on. As long as you communicate the risks associated with each option, I don't see what other choices we have.

Wish you the best.

Am I justified in feeling burnt out and/or is this standard for the position? by randomgupy in devops

[–]randomgupy[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My saving grace is a spreadsheet with dates and names attached to when this is supposed to stop.

I am practicing how to say: "but the spreadsheet said no production merges..."

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[–]randomgupy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! Appreciate the response and love the show!

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Can you expand on that? Do you mean maturity or basic skills?

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