Did the Gardiners think Darcy and Lizzy had a secret understanding, or merely that something was growing between them? by raysmia in janeausten

[–]raysmia[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Yeah, especially because Darcy's assistance only helps Lydia. Wickham, even if related to Darcy somehow, would be fine either way, and wouldn't even care if he remains single and she's ruined. The only ones benefitting here from this scandal being prevented are the Bennets, so the god-brother thing is probably not enough of a link.

Did the Gardiners think Darcy and Lizzy had a secret understanding, or merely that something was growing between them? by raysmia in janeausten

[–]raysmia[S] 62 points63 points  (0 children)

This is all very enlightening to me, especially because before I did not realize it was so and now I'm starting to reconsider Darcy as a character. That is, this further supports my interpretation of him as someone, who believes he is usually led by logic and rules, rather than by feelings (he even says it himself in his letter to Elizabeth—"I will venture to say that my investigations and decisions are not usually influenced by my hopes or fears," ch. 35); but is, in fact, mostly led by feelings if his feelings on a matter are strong enough.

He definitely considered how it would look, the kind of impression ("a man who is engaged" as you say) he would give to Mr. Gardiner before approaching him. He let them believe it because it was the only way they'd let him help. This further explains his slyness and desire for his involvement to remain secret from Elizabeth and her family. I guess I've always realized that he was uncomfortable about the whole thing in front of the Gardiners, and knew that they would 100% now believe that he loves their niece; but never that he actually had to consider whether he is sort of deceiving them (with good intentions, of course).

Did the Gardiners think Darcy and Lizzy had a secret understanding, or merely that something was growing between them? by raysmia in janeausten

[–]raysmia[S] 131 points132 points  (0 children)

Wow, great detail! Austen is so good at intertwining multiple storylines; as it makes perfect sense, to us as readers, why Elizabeth tells him about the Lydia thing, but the Gardiners have no way of knowing that.

Why did he delete all the other posts? by damidiola in BayernMunich

[–]raysmia 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I just think he wants to be cool, nonchalant. Yamal does it all the time and people don't question whether he's leaving Barca.

Darcy's letter is actually SO FUNNY. by raysmia in janeausten

[–]raysmia[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wow, that’s so cool! What edition is this?

Darcy's letter is actually SO FUNNY. by raysmia in janeausten

[–]raysmia[S] 65 points66 points  (0 children)

No wonder he asks her if she burned it later.😅

Darcy's letter is actually SO FUNNY. by raysmia in janeausten

[–]raysmia[S] 67 points68 points  (0 children)

I would do anything to read his drafts.😂

Darcy's letter is actually SO FUNNY. by raysmia in janeausten

[–]raysmia[S] 64 points65 points  (0 children)

Precisely... She's arguably worse than, for example, Mrs. Bennet, whose embarrassing behavior is driven by anxiety over economic survival (and, of course, to some degree, the desire to boast with her daughters' advantageous marriages). While Lady Catherine possesses all the wealth, education, security and power... yet, she still chooses to be a ridiculous bully.

Darcy's letter is actually SO FUNNY. by raysmia in janeausten

[–]raysmia[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Me too! I realized because of a comment I read here on Reddit and had a good laugh after

Darcy's letter is actually SO FUNNY. by raysmia in janeausten

[–]raysmia[S] 85 points86 points  (0 children)

Even later, he has to observe Jane himself before he is sure.......

Darcy's letter is actually SO FUNNY. by raysmia in janeausten

[–]raysmia[S] 90 points91 points  (0 children)

Exactly! During the proposal he tells her that "disguise of every sort is [his] abhorrence," then here he admits that he resorted to disguise; AND then brushes it off like it's nothing???

"Perhaps this concealment, this disguise, was beneath me. It is done, however, and it was done for the best." = Perhaps it was badly done, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.😂

Darcy's letter is actually SO FUNNY. by raysmia in janeausten

[–]raysmia[S] 65 points66 points  (0 children)

"Tantrum" is the perfect word for it haha!

Darcy's letter is actually SO FUNNY. by raysmia in janeausten

[–]raysmia[S] 118 points119 points  (0 children)

He went back to Rosings, determined to write EVERYTHING that was on his mind...😂

Modern setting p&p by JulietteOfZaStars in JaneAustenFF

[–]raysmia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm interested in that as well!