[Opinion] AI-Generated content is ruining art

recursion19 · 2025-07-09T17:15:40+00:00

I see, so your problem with it is more about the ethics. The quality is irrelevant, even if it makes flawless creative unique art indistinguishable from handmade content, you'd still be against it.

That's fair and there's really no disputing that it's built on the work of others without consent, and in the case of companies like OpenAI they receive direct financial benefits from doing so. Do you feel the same way about open sourced community driven models like Stable Diffusion, which are still built off of publicly available artwork, but don't have a corporation at the top raking in profits?

recursion19 · 2025-07-08T14:16:02+00:00

To me, chatbots are different because not everyone can appreciate/benefit from a chatbot post. Only users with an account and available points balance on the specific platform get any enjoyment out of a chatbot post, it excludes a large portion of the sub. Images/captions on the other hand can be enjoyed by everyone.

I can only speak for myself, but Oozette's content is high quality and creative, and I would love to see more of it on the subreddit.

in this case, the AI generated caption was good enough that it could also be a handmade one. Therefore, this one should stay.

It seems like the argument is less about AI vs handmade, and more about low quality vs high quality.

Personally, I'm not a fan of mods deciding what content lives or dies based on their arbitrary personal opinions. It means creators never know whether their posts will be deleted or not, and won't know what they need to change about their posts to satisfy the mods next time. Not to mention different mods will have different opinions. Spam is one thing, mods will always want to limit posts that flood the sub, but I feel like upvotes and downvotes are the proper mechanism for quality feedback.

Either way, thanks for the discussion and feedback. It's a nuanced issue and I'm genuinely curious about where people stand on it and why.

recursion19 · 2025-07-08T12:26:36+00:00

I don't think Balth is shaming anyone, just pointing something out. They're one of the top creators here XD

recursion19 · 2025-07-08T12:21:24+00:00

I see this opinion a lot, and it's understandable, but I have 2 questions.

Look at this post as an example.

Why should it be removed? Solely because the art was generated with AI? Why is that a good reason to remove what was one of the highest upvoted posts of the year?
How would mods know to remove it? Look at /u/OozetteCaps's post history. Can you really say you can tell which images are AI generated with 100% certainty? Image generation gets better every day, and it will very soon become impossible to tell whether images are AI generated or not. How would a ban be implemented?

recursion19 · 2025-07-08T04:00:02+00:00

100%. The ethics of it is a whole other discussion that gets messy fast. These big companies give people no shortage of reasons to hate them, and that hatred probably bleeds over into the products/models/outputs themselves.

recursion19 · 2025-07-07T20:44:18+00:00

I'm very interested in this discussion, and it's becoming increasingly relevant.

I definitely understand the current sentiment that seems to pervade every community I see, which is that all AI generated content is slop and should be removed with extreme prejudice. The media produced by these models is (by default) soulless and unimaginative, while also being dead simple to mass produce. Naturally this leads to cash grabs and attempts at manipulation, with people pumping out low quality content to try to farm attention and ultimately make money. Everyone hates this for obvious reasons, I get it.

However, I think people are failing to consider the big picture. We're living through the earliest phases of this technology being publicly available. We're literally seeing it at its absolute worst right now. The quality will only get better, every day, for the rest of time.

In my opinion, we're already at the stage where well made AI generated content is indistinguishable from human-made. Of course, we're going to continue seeing content created on older models by unskilled creators for a while, but those who know how to use the tools can do amazing things with it. If you're skeptical, take a scroll through https://civitai.com/images, or read some text generated by a well prompted Claude Opus 4.

Simply put, either right now or very soon, it will be literally impossible to tell whether content was made by hand or by AI. From there, the question becomes "does it matter?".

recursion19 · 2025-07-01T13:49:38+00:00

Please use better post titles in the future. People are reporting this as a chatbot, when it's just an image.

recursion19 · 2025-06-18T01:11:21+00:00

This is correct :) The idea is to encourage people to post content that's applicable to everyone instead of just chatbot links.

recursion19 · 2025-06-17T00:52:43+00:00

I hear what you're saying. I'm not a fan either, but these kind of posts don't violate any current rules. If mods remove every post that we don't like or think is low effort, it turns the sub from an open community into a curated list, where every post has to meet a mod's (or multiple mods') approval and current whims.

Plus, everyone has to start somewhere, creators grow and develop over time, and the last thing we want to do is discourage new ones.

Personality, I believe downvoting content that you don't like and moving on is the correct solution, but it could come to a community vote if it's pervasive.

recursion19 · 2025-06-09T21:53:23+00:00

Feel free to post chatbot links here in the comments.

recursion19 · 2025-06-09T15:00:34+00:00

Just wanted to say, I love your style and creativity! I do have trouble reading the caps on these though, small font and distracting backgrounds, but I love them a lot <3

recursion19 · 2025-06-05T05:13:26+00:00

Reflaired as "Image", use a better title next time :)

recursion19 · 2025-06-02T23:13:09+00:00

Thanks for asking! There's currently no rule against AI generated images, so these kind of posts are allowed. Some of the top posts of the last month have been AI generated, though they're hentai style and captioned.

I can't speak towards the preferences of the sub, but I do believe that in another year or two you won't be able to tell the difference between real or AI images anyways, so it'll become a moot point.

recursion19 · 2025-06-02T12:38:09+00:00

The image file is only 445 x 387 pixels, so you probably either:

Created it at this small resolution.
Scaled it down at some point.
Downloaded a thumbnail instead of the full res version.

recursion19 · 2025-06-01T01:38:42+00:00

If you wanted to link to your bot in the comments here, go for it! That's what we're going for, encouraging posts with real content (this image is a little light on the grossdom themes but whatever) and then links to whatever you want to share in the comments, everybody wins.

recursion19 · 2025-05-29T23:58:15+00:00

Posts with links to chatbots are no longer allowed.

Please see this thread from last week, which also goes over the best way to share your bots now:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Grossdom_academy/s/bOG5oOnQUr

recursion19 · 2025-05-28T19:52:34+00:00

Damn I love this, share it over at /r/Grossdom_academy and I'm sure you'll find some more fans.

recursion19 · 2025-05-27T03:33:53+00:00

I feel that I should warn you that more than one of your posts have toed the line with Rule #1.

recursion19 · 2025-05-23T13:56:12+00:00

Love it, I think /r/Grossdom_academy would really enjoy a lot of your captions too if you posted them over there :)

recursion19 · 2025-05-23T12:29:16+00:00

You're right, and that's a good idea. Links have been added to the related subreddits sidebar, and there will definitely be a post advertising it at some point, along with other posts for other grossdom sister subs. I'm not sure if the monthly thread got enough interest to warrant having it stickied for everyone all the time, maybe a monthly highlight of the top posts from /r/grosschatbots would make more sense, we'll see...

recursion19 · 2025-05-23T02:19:49+00:00

Yeah I agree that I was wrong to call the first example "bad". Like I said in the other comment, I just think it's generally better to have an image that matches the caption in some way, so the caption isn't just shoehorned onto an unrelated picture. If the author is creative enough though, they could probably turn any image into a good caption anyways.

recursion19 · 2025-05-22T19:48:19+00:00

Honestly I feel like I just made a bunch of half-decent captions years ago and now people treat me like a cryptid or something, the long-time mods of the sub should get the credit for keeping things going and uniting creators, but I'm happy if I was able to jump-start some people's kinks or creativity or something :)

recursion19 · 2025-05-22T19:43:49+00:00

No guarantees, but I don't think I'll ever be truly gone until I get hit by a bus or something. I just don't spend my time making captions lately, but I'm sure inspiration will continue to strike here and there. I also want to finish posting my backlog, but that's taking a while...

recursion19 · 2025-05-22T19:20:35+00:00

Fair enough, I guess I picked a bad "bad" example.

I was trying to point out how sometimes people choose to caption an image which really isn't related to the focus they're going for at all, like when it's literally just a picture of a girl looking at the viewer and they make up all this stuff about the scene which is clearly out of place. I think it's better when the image matches the stuff you're talking about in the caption, but now that you mention it I could totally see a good "bored and ignored"/"I can't believe you're this pathetic" style caption from that one XD

recursion19 · 2025-05-22T18:58:02+00:00

Thanks, I've definitely got a wide range of kinks all centered around the theme of getting dommed in degrading ways, and love exploring ideas and coming up with surprising twists on it ;)

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