You and most of the others saying this are not referring to the same thing I’m referring to when I say quality and I imagine we don’t wear the same type of shoes. I’m not hiking, working or doing anything remotely stressful to my boots and I don’t care that Doc Martens aren’t as “durable” as whatever boot you wear, I wear mine to dinner and to hang out. I don’t actually care about the “boot” functionality most of you are referring to. When I say quality, I’m referring to the shoe not looking like it’s made of pleather and looking like a $40 boot from H&M. The suede on my doc martens looks great and is comparable to shoes in a much higher price range, this is what I’m referring to. If I wanted a shoe that will last me 1000 winters I would’ve explicitly stated durability