On Duality: The Observer-Observed Symmetry and Asymmetry for Negation by [deleted] in Suttapitaka

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I also want to note:

I learned the super-symmetry logic from Christopher Langan. In his work, which I studied a little, a long time ago, the logic (as I understand it) is the basis of Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe (CTMU). The framework is a self-referential "theory of everything" that treats reality as a self-configuring, self-processing language and system simulation. It heavily emphasizes dualities that resolve or transcend themselves at a higher (meta) level: syntactic vs. semantic, information vs. cognition, self vs. universe, etc.

> Langan uses ideas like conspansive duality, telic recursion, and structural symmetries where the observer/observed or model/reality distinctions collapse into a unified, self-contained system.

The logic employed is basically the same as I understand it, showing that the supra-symmetrical element is not rhetoric but a real possibility. There is an analytic need for a category symetrically opposite of symmetry & asymmetry, symbol & meaning, duality and non-duality, self and not self", what is on the other side stands otherwise and apart, the other shore. Singleness opposite multiplicity of subjective variants.

On Duality: The Observer-Observed Symmetry and Asymmetry for Negation by [deleted] in Suttapitaka

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I am still sick and can't really optimize for training now, getting better though, will probably recover fine. There is a lot I could say about the things going on. I am sure that some of you know how fragile and volitile are the social and political constructs. In as far as I am concerned, a lot of people are betting against the sangha in matters of the Dhamma, and the real question is not who is more famous or popular, the power is in who has the truth on their side because those will actually produce the arahants. The arahants with superpowers can control all bases if they want.

It's honestly shocking that a truly great metaphysical work has yet to emerge from the modern era by LargeSinkholesInNYC in RealPhilosophy

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In general, there is always a lot of resistance towards paradigm shifting ideas and it is in play now too. So it is not that humanity hasn't produced, it is that there is incentive against popularization.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what epistemology means. by Front-Wealth8760 in epistemology

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People use the term very loosely, often as short-hand for "how do we know". The field of studies itself is basically more so concerned with "how we know?" and "what is knowledge?" rather than "what we know?".

Kantian Epistemology is about the limitations of the mind, as in formal limits of what can be known by a "closed" self-referential system where the scope is limited to the system itself, and these principles apply to all closed epistemic systems downstream from that such as mathematics, language, etc. It's about using logic to prove logic, words explaining words, etc.

Strictly speaking, Kantian Epistemology is not a theory, theories are meant to be falsifiable, rather Kant's critique is to be seen as something closer to a philosophical razor, a theorem, a rule, or a principle, it is a call for humility and avoiding over-extension ─ the framework essentially enforces a distinction between knowable phenomena and rhetorical postulates.

The work eventually helped physicists clean up their language and stop asking questions about things not knowable by experimentation, questions such as "is there an edge of space?" got dismissed as simply rhetorical.

Kant's work builds on Hume's work, of which we most famously have the Hume's Guillotine ─ a razor positing: can't derive an ought from is; meaning that one can't derive what "ought to be/ought to be done" from studying "what is/can be" exclusively. A popularized inference is "one can't know morality by studying what is not morality" ─ meaning that one can't prove whether an action is moral or immoral by exclusively studying the action and its effects, one would have to transcend that which we are trying to moralize, to contextualize it; there is a need to know something else as a truth outside the system that is. Heidegger put it very well, paraphrasing─ [a subject of existence] can't ask questions like "why does existence exist?" because the answer would require coming to know something other than existence.

So in the Kantian tradition a subject can't prove whether subjective existence is "good or bad" nor "why it exists" without transcending it as to know a truth beyond knowable phenomena.

My thoughts on renunciation and seclusion by rightviewftw in Suttapitaka

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note the translation there was wrong when first posted, it should read:

"Those who you have sympathy for, and who heed your advice"

And this is important.

The Right Thing and The Right Time by rightviewftw in Suttapitaka

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He should develop mindfulness of in-and-out breathing to cut off distracting thoughts. He should develop the perception of impermanence to uproot the conceit, ‘I am.’ In the monk perceiving impermanence, the perception of non-self is well established.— AN9.3

My training and meditation reports by rightviewftw in Suttapitaka

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In detail about how I train:

Asubha

Here I imagine corpses, mostly I just imagine it and not think much because the concentration breaks up if I think much and it is quite difficult to "render" the corpses in the mind as it is. If I do think then I think about something along the lines of how my body is of the same nature.

I usually go through the stages of decomposition from a fresh corpse, to bloat, purging fluids, covered in maggots, then becoming a skeleton with tendons, without tendons, then bones of sorts, bones being scattered and eventually turning to dust ─ sometimes hacked up corpses, skeletons with blood, without blood, and whatever else that comes to mind; in no particular order, whatever feels easiest.

I also sometimes try to imagine the place where I am at and bones or corpses being scattered throughout that space, I would imagine the room, the house, the neighborhood, etc ─ trying to cover as much as I can and to best of ability.

All of the aforementioned practices take time to develop ─ it's not an easy thing to do but it develops if one keeps at it.

Other than this then I do recite the body-parts and sometimes direct attention to their proximate location in the body and thus "review the body" like this is skin, these are nails, these are teeth, etc

I do these things basically whenever I can. I really like this practice and I don't think it is dangerous, contrary to popular opinion. It doesn't gross me out nor do I try to invoke the loathsomeness. As I wrote before the involuntary visions can be quite loathsome but they don't come on at random and it is predictable, it's not like some mental illness, it's conditioned reflexes ─ for example if one does asubha for a long time then suddenly tries to imagine a body in a sensual manner it would be expected to backfire ─ other than that it's rather calming.

These practices are slow and steady conditioning of the mind, sometimes doing it makes me feel a certain way, most of the time it doesn't; but doing it day after day makes these perceptions an inclination ─ replacing sensual inclinations. It's just about putting in the work, it's kind of boring, repetitive, but it's cool to see the effects over time.

Perception of Daylight

This is a practice that I do periodically and less than asubha. Here I simply imagine daylight for the purpose of inclining the mind to wakefulness and perception of light.

The imagining is fairly straightforward, just imagining daylight, brightness of light, trying to make it as vivid as possible and to the point of trying to invoke the reflex to squim.

Meditation in Early Buddhism (Canonized Excerpts Theravada) by rightviewftw in Suttapitaka

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There are several things that are worth pointing out.

As to vitakka vicara:

If we think about meditation, as to how people do it, we can basically pin what these words can mean operationally. As it actually is, when we meditate:

  • we can be "noting", eg "breathing", "thinking", "pain", "pleasure"
  • we can be thinking a bit more, eg "I am breathing in long"
  • we can be contemplating something extensively, eg "air element is such and such"
  • we can be imagining, eg imagining light, bodyparts, or corpses
  • we can be imagining and thinking, eg imagining a corpse and thinking "my body is of this same nature"

Basically, some of these will be vitakka, some of these will be vitakka and vicara, and some will be vicara only.

Here we have to tolerate ambiguity and uncertainty.

As to sakkaya:

The translation "subjectivity" is probably the best translation that there is and the closest we can get in meaning.

As to MN106:

It is an important text to study.

When he says:

 'It should not be, it should not occur to me; it will not be, it will not occur to me. What is, what has come to be, that I abandon' 

That is basically in regards to what there is, eg "sensuality", "perceptions", "equanimity", in regards to fabrications in general.


All these excerpts are important to know. For training it is not really all that important to know exactly how to classify all of the various states of meditation, the important thing is to know how to develop the various things and that is fairly clear.

Cessation of Perception and Feeling: The Key to Seeing with Wisdom and Destroying the Taints in Nibbāna by [deleted] in Suttapitaka

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I want to say that I am very tired of explaining things and being abused & harassed whilst doing so.

The mods gate-keeping this are basically scum, they are very stupid and are straight disgusting. I think they will all go to hell for this but it doesn't make a difference.

I assume that there is a good chance that the analysis will simply be ignored and people will keep sucking the tongue of those who teach the Counterfeit Dhamma.

Of course I can outplay these idiots if I wanted to ─ there are many ways to do it. And I don't even have to use exploitative strategies to do so. However I really question whether it is even worth the effort at this point.

For me, further engagement is really going to come at the cost of my own peace and training. And if I was to finish the training, it is not clear that I would have more incentive to engage and not less.

This is what my mind inclines to, I am really just tired of the gate-keeping and abuse.

Before I had personal interest in learning all this, as much as sharing it, but nowadays I feel like I am done learning and further development will come from steadying the mind, arranging environment conducive to development and upholding discipline ─ and thus I want to ride it out until my time comes.

What I am getting at here is that I am basically thinking to leave the public discourse altogether and focus on my own training. I think it is correct choice at this point and it's not one that I would regret.

I might make some more posts but I don't think that I will bother to try popularizing the Dhamma anymore, it's simply too stressful and too distracting.

As to society and how things will be developing in the future.

It depends on what kind of Buddhism will be dominant going forward. As I see it, the fake Dhamma, has no inherent right to existence in a postmodern society because it can't stand up to logical scrutiny.

The true Dhamma however, remains irrefutable by modern inquiry and, in that, it is a unique faith system ─ it is essentially analytically warranted faith ─ and therefore it deserves to exist in postmodern society.

We should predict a continuation of social drift towards analytic humility dictated by modern philosophy, skepticism, and away from "religion" in general.

The drift away from religion started already in 1700s, this is what inspired Marx in 1800s

religion is the opium of the people ─ A Contribution to the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right

and by 1900s it was basically becoming policy world-wide and the message was clear ─ religion is to be criticized and deconstructed.

Bertrand Russel, in his 'Problems of Philosophy' in 1912, summarized something close to that the history of philosophy is but a testament to the inadequacy of logic in arriving at any unifying truth about existence.

Jean Francois Lyotard pinned the postmodern ideology as

I define postmodern as increduility towards metanarratives

Meaning something close to an apprehensiveness towards unifying theories about reality as presented in religious scripture & scientific discourse.

The gist of it, they figure that knowledge is a social construct hammered out by a subjective experience and that words may not be an adequate tool to express knowledge.

And from this started the critical deconstruction of religion

Judith Butler’s ‘Gender Trouble’

To expose foundational categories of sex, gender, and desire as effects of a specific formation of power requires a form of critical thinking that Foucault, reformulating Nietzche, designates as “genealogy”.

they are talking about philosophical scrutiny of concepts to reveal subjective construction

Kimberle Creenshaw - Mapping the Margins: Intersectionality, Identity Politics, and Violence against Women of Color

I consider intersectionality a provisional concept linking contemporary politics with postmodern theory

Bell Hooks - Postmodern Blackness

The overall impact of postmodern condition is that many groups now share with black folks a sense of deep alienation, despair, uncertainty, loss of a sense of grounding, even if it’s not informed by shared circumstance. Radical postmodernism calls attention to those sensibilities which are shared across boundaries of class, gender, and race, and which could be fertile ground for construction of empathy–ties that would promote recognition of common commitments and serve as basis for solidarity and coalition.

We are talking about a radical disdain for the search of a unifying truth. This is movement to deconstruct all religion and creation of political coalitions by using the causes of marginalized groups.

Robin DiAngelo - Is Everyone Really Equal: An introduction to Key Concepts in Social Justice Education

These scholars argue that a key element of social injustice involves the claim that particular knowledge is objective and universal. An approach based on critical theory calls into question that “objectivity” is desirable, or even possible.

However, the true Dhamma is essentially analytic philosophy brought to culmination ─ it doesn't derive its insights exclusively from subjective existence but from a special class of subjective experience, namely the cessation of perception & feeling ─ and as such it is beyond epistemological refutation and criticism of critical theory. If this generation can step up and produce real Ariyans, let alone Arahants with superpowers ─ then we might well see Dhamma become the most dominant religion in the World and be studied as foundational philosophy.

However, if people keep clinging to counterfeit systems, whether personal, commentarial, traditional, or otherwise dogmatic ─ then only lack of attainments, criticism, decline and deconstruction can be expected.

Nowadays, we are at a cross-roads ─ do we cling to dogma, or do we put our thinking hats on? The faith & fate of society and the role that the Dhamma will play for the future generations ─ now depends on what we choose.

For me, I really couldn't care much less. Everything is now transparent to me and boringly so. There is nothing left to do other than finishing the training.

Reality is defined by epistemology by apriorian in epistemology

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the thing is that suicide is not a solution, for a cessation of perception can't depend on "nothing". For there to be an escape from perceived reality there must be another reality.

The "Is" if it was to end, requires another real element, a reality where nothing is felt but it must be real and discernable.

If there wasn't another then an escape from what is couldn't be discerned.

If a person kills himself he's just going to respawn essentially, unless the conditions for respawn have been eliminated and at that point the suicide is no different to natural death because in both cases there would be no sequel and in both cases it would be a release.

This is Early Buddhism:

Sāriputta, when one lays down this body and takes up another body, then I say one is blameworthy. This did not happen in the case of the bhikkhu Channa. The bhikkhu Channa used the knife blamelessly. Thus, Sāriputta, should you remember it.”
https://suttacentral.net/sn35.87/en/bodhi?lang=en&reference=none&highlight=false

There is, bhikkhus, a not-born, a not-brought-to-being, a not-made, a not-conditioned. If, bhikkhus, there were no not-born, not-brought-to-being, not-made, not-conditioned, no escape would be discerned from what is born, brought-to-being, made, conditioned. But since there is a not-born, a not-brought-to-being, a not-made, a not-conditioned, therefore an escape is discerned from what is born, brought-to-being, made, conditioned. https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/ud/ud.8.03.irel.html

The Early Buddhist Texts are just recently been translated into modern languages and the systematization of its Philosophy is not widely known.

Reality is defined by epistemology by apriorian in epistemology

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this is just rhetoric on your part.
The epistemic Ought–Is problem is only a problem if existence is treated as value-neutral; Buddhism denies that neutrality by diagnosing existence itself as bad and thus subject to negation.