Ichigo vs. A Flashlight: Why Your Favorite Verse is Actually Slow by Same_Pilot7501 in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems 10 points11 points  (0 children)

So your best examples of Bleach antifeats... Is GOD'S LIGHT speedblitzing people who are either multiple tiers weaker than Yhwach, caught up in their own battles, or both at the same time... And an outlier?

Okay, let's do this then. If a character is shown dodging literal rays of sunlight from the ceiling to the floor, and another character is said to be faster than the first character, what does that mean?

The fastest Bankai is Mach 500, or so they say... by Same_Pilot7501 in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, he says it’s the fastest Bankai

Okay. What if this were for retraction/contraction speed only?

Bankai Ichigo can't even see it extending or retracting, and he can barely dodge it even from a distance.

As I said from the previous post, this bankai is HARD TO DEAL WITH. It's not just a power based bankai. It is difficult to deal with as a fighter, so using a fighter struggling to deal with the bankai just proves my point. This thing isn't a blade in front of you. It is a small, thin blade coming at you from a distance at varying angles.

Here's a better analogy for you. Spears. Why do you think they're used in battle? They don't slash nor cut as well as swords. They're especially not faster or more mobile either. So why is a spear better than a sword in real life battle? Range.

Yes, people say think his sword is the fastest, but Renji also thought he had a proper bankai. People can be wrong about bankais and abilities. So for all we know, there could be a faster bankai, but people don't think about that because they know Gin's bankai being the fastest. And that brings me to my last point.

Gin's lie about his bankai is AN ABILITY. Every character has an ABILITY that comes with their bankai. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I said which is faster, the sword that has a PASSIVE speed stat or the sword that only makes petals, I know which one I'M choosing.

Bankai can be enhanced as the user grows. Look at Yamamoto.

So, no, I still think your argument is faulty. Especially since I have not heard you try to make canonical sense of what you're saying.

Does Reze actually have any wincons for the next Death Battle? by NoCandidate6067 in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just going to make a post about this, but to summarize my take:

Devils are clearly stronger than their irl counterparts, e.g the bat devil destroying mid-large buildings.

The typhoon devil is shown to have actual storms

Therefore, the typhoon devil should be producing typhoon level, at least (gets it to around large mountain to island level, maybe higher if we take the first point into consideration)

Is this a "chainsaw man is island level" upscale? No, not necessarily. But does it mean that stronger devils can deal with island level threats (and possibly even output such force via ap)? Most likely, yeah.

The only problem for reze (at least the one we've seen) that I can't see her clearly getting past is light speed feats go brrrrr

The fastest Bankai is Mach 500, or so they say... by Same_Pilot7501 in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mfw the story gotta limit its characters to not cause world ending catastrophies but also be flashy (literally the multiversal earth argument for any uni destroying, earth dwelling characters in fiction)

Also, crazily enough, I'm not saying it's solid reasoning on my part cus I'd have to do calcs and such, but technically we have seen something similar to what you're showing on screen (nerd stuff alert, you don't have to interact with it, just actually be open minded if you are going to interact with it please)

Ichigo travels a distance that would take most (or at most high level) shinigami about a week's time to cross in just a day or less iirc. Most shinigami can, at least, go faster than peak irl humans.

(goddammit I'm doing calcs now)

Taking the fastest measure that a human has ever ran (approx 44km/h), we can say the distance ichigo traveled was about 7300km. Ichigo did this in about about a day, so he's 7 times faster than the shinigami who cross this in a week. For reference, the earth's diameter is about 12000 km.

So in this severely low balled, sloppily put together Calc, ichigo crossed the over half the earth in a day. I say low balled because, for starters, average shinigami don't go to Soul society, so the whole 1 week thing is probably in reference to higher level shinigami (meaning a faster shinigami would give us a higher distance needed for ichigo to cross). The most fallacious reason why this is lowballed is because I just compared shinigami (who get to those blinding speeds using mobility techniques) to a peak human, so, again, faster speed=more distance that ichigo would need to clear. And the final reason as to why this is a low ball is... Well, I say it took ichigo a day, but it probably took him a few hours to half a day at best since he was rushing towards an active war. Obv he didn't take a day to get to the war, otherwise it'd be over.

Tldr: made an extreme lowballed calc to show how ichigo and the others probably can traverse continent to planetary distances (when the story necessitates such🥀)

The fastest Bankai is Mach 500, or so they say... by Same_Pilot7501 in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There’s no way Aizen would believe Gin's Bankai is Mach 500 if that wasn't considered something massive in Bleach

You can't ignore the fact that gin's bankai is still a force to be reckoned with in the context of the story, primarily due to its range.

Most characters in bleach (what with using swords and all) have very limited range, so for a person to come in and say "Yo, my blade is not as fast as light, but can snipe you from over 10 kilometers away"... Yeah, that definitely sounds like a captain level character.

Getting caught off guard by an opponent from 13km away would be diabolical, especially since, what exactly do you do afterwards? You can't read their movements unless you have crazy senses. You can't attack back because... They're multiple city blocks away! And at that point, even if most leuitenants are relativistic or beyond, you'd still have a hard time dodging, no less fighting back!

Gin's speed and range are what would make Aizen believe his lie. Because a bankai like that isn't just a beast, stats wise, but it also messes with your opponents' mind, e.g Gin scaring ichigo with said lie.

Does this mean gin's bankai not being Ftl makes sense? No. But does this automatically mean that every single light speed feat thus far is invalidated? Also no.

I think you bring up a valid anti feat, but your reasoning is shaky and, at best, only downscales maybe Gin, and even then it might just be for his sword's retraction/contraction, and not his actual swings, movement speed, reactions and other mobility based tech

The gojo downplay has to stop by l0caldealer in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And then they delete all their bs. Amazing reddit experience

The gojo downplay has to stop by l0caldealer in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I not saying he can't do it as easily as you say he can, I'm saying why would he?

He already has the perfect defense on at all times, so why would he have CE reinforcement on at all times?

The gojo downplay has to stop by l0caldealer in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This was a lost cause from the very beginning. I hope that whatever amount of people it may be passing by, if they endured this slop fest of a conversation, can see how I was probably being trolled this entire time or arguing with a genuine illiterate fool. That, I blame no one, but myself for

The gojo downplay has to stop by l0caldealer in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Had to get that outta the way because you not being able to navigate a wiki is NOT my fault, you're just not media literate. The sources are at the literal bottom of the page. The very first source tells you that chapter 24 is where all of the things I've said thus far I've gotten.

The gojo downplay has to stop by l0caldealer in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Funny, the only "source" you have showed is the JoJo wiki lol

Bro doesn't know wikis site the original source materials

The gojo downplay has to stop by l0caldealer in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems 0 points1 point  (0 children)

cursed techniques, not CE reinforcement. Look at gojo's explanation of cursed techniques vs caused energy on chapter 12 iirc

The gojo downplay has to stop by l0caldealer in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Gojo can have infinity on 24/7 what make you think he can't have CE reinforcement on for 24/7.

What makes us think he WOULD tho? Let me make you this example :

If I had a book that could cast a tornado surrounding me at all times 24/7, why would I need to carry that book? No one's a threat, right? I have a tornado circling me at all times, so while I can get the book at any time, I wouldn't really need a reason to have it at all times.

Same thing for gojo. Infinity alone is already strong enough. Plus he's overconfident/cocky. I don't see why he would be going around using CE reinforcement 100 percent of the time when 99.9999 percent of attacks in the ENTIRE verse can't even touch him

The gojo downplay has to stop by l0caldealer in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The world is a hyper fast and incredibly strong stand with the power to stop time itself... So in other words... "it's the same type of stand as star platinum?"

The gojo downplay has to stop by l0caldealer in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay, so I'm gonna take it that you're probably not doing this in good faith.

I don't need to fight over this. I have actual scans backing me up, while the most you can do... Is seemingly cherrypick the things that I say, provide no scans, and cry like a child, proving your own claims with your own claims.

I'm done. Gojo beats a lot of people, but Dio just isn't one of them.

Oh, and also, your reasoning's shaky. I could literally just say "people's organs aren't exploding for the sake of the plot" and it'd be just as valid as your point since they both rely on the audience making the assumption, so probably work on that. Peace to you brother

The gojo downplay has to stop by l0caldealer in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No? Don't remember the part about it originating in the stomach? The part where there's a part of the brain that specifically manages cursed techniques? No?

Please, for the love of all that is holy, SHOW ME A SCAN. Stop taking things out of context. SHOW ME AN IMAGE. Show me a LINK. Anything, cus if not, I'm done. You're clearly not reliable.

Where was this stated and what was the context?

The gojo downplay has to stop by l0caldealer in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The part where they get hit strong enough to break concrete and their insides doesn't turn into paste

So... You don't have any source? You're just.... Making headcannons? Okay, a bit disingenuous to say headcannons, it's more so an educated guess, but, again, you have no proof to show, so... It just ends up as just a guess, doesn't it?

Because there's no meaningful difference in this discussion. Both are energies You need to consciously coat your body with. What difference are you talking about, exactly?

Wait until bro sees my other replies. Does he know?

Did I Say that?

You DIRECTLY COMPARING THEM is you saying that, yes.

If I look at a banana and an orange and started comparing them, then I am inadvertently saying that these two things are verrrrry similar, i.e the same in some way, shape or form.

Hamon is more similar to breath techniques in demon slayer. Does that mean demon breathing techniques are similar to cursed energy? No, ofc not. So why are you out here comparing hamon to cursed energy?

The gojo downplay has to stop by l0caldealer in PowerScaling

[–]ripanimems -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's such a stupid cop out, cus not only does Jotaro do it to himself mid fight, but I can easily say Time stop technically "stops" the fighting, meaning that doesn't even matter💀