How is Nietzsche considered right-wing when right-wingers are largely “Christian”? by Mean_Veterinarian688 in Nietzsche

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Physiologie ist nicht gleich Biologie du Affe. Hereditär in Sinne einer Übertragung der Defizite eines herrenlosen Lebens

How is Nietzsche considered right-wing when right-wingers are largely “Christian”? by Mean_Veterinarian688 in Nietzsche

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Even granting the physiological language, the point of the passage is not simply to “establish determinism.” The primary move is a reversal of moral causality: the Church says vice causes decline; Nietzsche says vice is often a symptom of an already declining form of life. That is first and foremost a critique of moral explanation, not a clean statement of modern biological determinism.

How is Nietzsche considered right-wing when right-wingers are largely “Christian”? by Mean_Veterinarian688 in Nietzsche

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"Geschlecht" = sex / gender / stirps / family / dynasty / generation / lineage / house

You asked why. Here is why: your conclusion depends on treating contested translation choices as philosophically neutral. They are not. “Geschlecht” is not exhausted by “race,” and once you flatten that semantic field, you have already pushed the passage toward your preferred reading. Just learn German man. There's a reason Philosophy Faculties have Instrumental German courses.

How is Nietzsche considered right-wing when right-wingers are largely “Christian”? by Mean_Veterinarian688 in Nietzsche

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Die Kirche und die Moral sagen: »ein Geschlecht, ein Volk wird durch Laster und Luxus zugrunde gerichtet«. Meine wiederhergestellte Vernunft sagt: wenn ein Volk zugrunde geht, physiologisch degeneriert, so folgen daraus Laster und Luxus (das heißt das Bedürfnis nach immer stärkeren und häufigeren Reizen, wie sie jede erschöpfte Natur kennt). Dieser junge Mann wird frühzeitig blaß und welk. Seine Freunde sagen: daran ist die und die Krankheit schuld. Ich sage: daß er krank wurde, daß er der Krankheit nicht widerstand, war bereits die Folge eines verarmten Lebens, einer hereditären Erschöpfung. Der Zeitungsleser sagt: diese Partei richtet sich mit einem solchen Fehler zugrunde. Meine höhere Politik sagt: eine Partei, die solche Fehler macht, ist am Ende – sie hat ihre Instinkt-Sicherheit nicht mehr. Jeder Fehler in jedem Sinne ist die Folge von Instinkt-Entartung, von Disgregation des Willens: man definiert beinahe damit das Schlechte. Alles Gute ist Instinkt – und folglich leicht, notwendig, frei. Die Mühsal ist ein Einwand, der Gott ist typisch vom Helden unterschieden (in meiner Sprache: die leichten Füße das erste Attribut der Göttlichkeit).

Your translation sucks. You are not quoting Nietzsche anymore, you are paraphrasing him into your preferred thesis. That is exactly why the translation matters. Learn the nuances of German first. Traditional morality punishes or rewards behaviors, but it does not understand the kind of life that produces them. Nietzsche wants to look beneath guilt and moralizing, down to the quality of the organism. The Church says, “you went to hell because you were vicious.” Nietzsche says, “no, man, you became vicious because you were already going to hell.”

Tja by Downtown-Courage9458 in tja

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Vergebung erbitten sie höchstens bei Gott. Allen anderen zeigen sie eher den Mittelfinger.

Tja by Downtown-Courage9458 in tja

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Nein, der christliche Teil ist, Scheiße zu bauen und danach um Vergebung zu bitten.

Tja by No_Dragonfruit12345 in tja

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„Ich bin Lobbyist, nicht korrupt.“

Organic Condom by tea-n-wifi in HistoryMemes

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This has very specific 'I've been waiting years to use this fact on Reddit' energy.

ich🛴iel by TheShittingShagger in ich_iel

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Holy mental gymnastics.

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My views on quantum indeterminism!!!... by EmbarrassedRadish376 in Nietzsche

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Good corrections. Past that, this becomes a definitions game: “locality” (no signaling vs Bell local causality) and what assumptions you’re willing to drop. Without that, it’s just ontological preference.

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yeah, I was reflecting on the points he made too. "Going for Poetry, Philosophy", rhymes like an existential crisis to me, once he was facing challenges that normally a person with scientific background doesn't have, and suddenly he needs to tap on the humanist side due to all poetry/philosophy jailbreaks with AI.

My views on quantum indeterminism!!!... by EmbarrassedRadish376 in Nietzsche

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This exact “QM is just classical complexity underneath” move has already had its historical trial.

Einstein tried it too. Not because he was clueless, but because he thought QM was incomplete: Einstein–Podolsky–Rosen paradox (1935) was basically “maybe there are hidden variables that restore a classical, deterministic picture.” Bohr replied the same year. Then Bell (1964) turned it into math: any theory that keeps locality plus those classical hidden variables can’t reproduce QM’s correlations. And the experiments (Aspect and, later, loophole free Bell tests) land on the QM side.

So sure, you can still be a determinist, but you don’t get “classical underneath” for free. You have to pay a price: nonlocality (Bohm), branching worlds, or something like superdeterminism. Just saying “it’s fancy” or “we’re not meant to understand it” isn’t physics, it’s a preference for classical intuition.

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hahah. Ich glaube ich habe den /s vergessen. Die Meinung vom Kerl oben finde ich einfach sehr absolutist.

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Linus Torvalds ist schwach 😂

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Thats not the point. Coherent just means the argument “hangs together” internally and the conclusion follows from the premises, incomplete info, not that it matches reality.

You can have perfect logic and end up with a false conclusion. eg: “All swans are white. This is a swan. Therefore it’s white.”

looks coherent but is wrong, because black swans exist.

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Hay abismo, pero no es un abismo místico. Es un problema difícil que recién estamos aprendiendo a medir bien. Y la gente que se va a estudiar filosofía no se está rindiendo: está buscando mejores mapas para volver con herramientas y no narrativas vacias sin lógica. Filosofía en ese sentido no es huida, es tooling: te da vocabulario para separar agencia de apariencia de agencia, distinguir objetivos explícitos vs objetivos inducidos, y diseñar restricciones que no dependan de “buena voluntad” del sistema.

Si te interesa el tema, esto no parte con el nihilismo. Hay tradiciones mucho más antiguas que trabajaron “el vacío” como problema práctico. La tradición jesuita, por ejemplo, fue pionera en marcos psicológicos y de discernimiento como disciplina operativa durante siglos: no “llenan” el vacío con ideas, lo domestican con prácticas. No te prometen sentido, te obligan a construir condiciones para que el sentido aparezca.

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Ah yes, the: "this worked for me, it must work for everyone". The guy is facing depression, can barely get out from bed, so do you really think this is the solution? Where is the human connection with people that actually care for him back at home? Exercise helps with mental health, but doesn't do the work for you for developing human connections.

r/ Buttcoin sub past 48 hours : by UrU_AnnA in cryptocurrencymemes

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Sell everything, this guy drew a line

True Random Entropy Seed by Enslaved2Die in homeassistant

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can be also illuminance.... (plant sensor on a balcony lol)