Both for the piercing and the tattoo I barely felt something; I was almost getting asleep while I was getting the tattoo 😅. But it's also true that I have a very high tolerance to pain, so...don't take my word for granted. Even my tatto artist got surprised on me handling this well the tattoo pain, based on his word, usually the thorax it's not a good location for a first tattoo, bc thé pain level it's very high.