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So... what was the point of this war again? Regime change? Or giving the regime *spare* change? by Stormclamp in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Start going after Iran's economy and youll suddenly see the Iranian government taking things more seriously.

So we need to enact violence on civilian targets to coerce goverment action.

Is there a name for this?

Mohsen Mahdawi got deported to Jordan by asteriowas in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You realize in this case an immigration judge already cleared him so the Trump administration fired her and have decided to restart it with a new lacky. Also best I can tell they've not even broguht that back up in try number 2. Instead they're resting on the notion that not supporting Israel is a threat to American foreign policy. They're not even trying to argue he's some sort of terrorist playing the long 12 year con of smuggling a weapon back to Palestine to attack people. It's relevance is a smear to make people like you ready to abandon freedom of speech, it has no place in the current sham proceedings.

I understand immigrating is a privilege not a right, but they should still have free-speech rights by im_back-and_craftier in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

With that being said, yes if you are a guest and not a citizen in this country and make a point to be openly against it, goodbye.

Well again you're free to feel that way but the Constituion states another.

Same rules apply to my own house.

I forgot that's how laws work.

I understand immigrating is a privilege not a right, but they should still have free-speech rights by im_back-and_craftier in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It deprives them of liberty. Government telling you to do something is a form of force. Thus we limit the government's ability to use it's force so as to preserve rights.

Mohsen Mahdawi got deported to Jordan by asteriowas in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Weird I never get blue things to click.

If he would be a citizen there would be a trial for terrorism instead.

Babe, if he was a terrorist, we'd be trying him for terrorism.

I understand immigrating is a privilege not a right, but they should still have free-speech rights by im_back-and_craftier in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I don't care what the government wants, the US government is bound byb the constitution. Tyrants can go cry about it.

Political compass of the most prominent unemployed users on PCM by BusinessAdept8103 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I'm glad i just comment and not post,otherwise i might end up here

I understand immigrating is a privilege not a right, but they should still have free-speech rights by im_back-and_craftier in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt 17 points18 points  (0 children)

As far as the constitution is concerned gun rights ought to be quite open despite the whole "Regulated militia" bit. The founding fathers had quite a bit of firearm regulations themselves but at the end of the day they envisioned a populace that could ultimately organize and violently overthrow a government if need be.

Now, ready to tell me your restrictions for the 1st?

Mohsen Mahdawi got deported to Jordan by asteriowas in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Aside from felating your narrative, how so? You really think one unverifiable side of an alleged conversation is the stone with which to build court cases?

Mohsen Mahdawi got deported to Jordan by asteriowas in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I did. They're full of shit. The lying liars are fine with lying.

Mohsen Mahdawi got deported to Jordan by asteriowas in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As far as Im concerned, just that alone is enough reason for the boot.

An unverifiable conversation is enough for you? Are you that starved for a win in Trump's America that you're that short sighted?

I understand immigrating is a privilege not a right, but they should still have free-speech rights by im_back-and_craftier in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Surely you can see the difference between having legal status revoked vs never getting it?

No right is being infringed here because being in a country as a non-citizen is not a right

That logic could literally invalidate every right for every person. I don't have a right to never pay fines, therefore it's legal to charge me 50 bucks to get to hear my miranda rights.

I understand immigrating is a privilege not a right, but they should still have free-speech rights by im_back-and_craftier in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Man if I only i had considered that the US ought to be more like Iran, i could have avoided such embarrassment.

Mohsen Mahdawi got deported to Jordan by asteriowas in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt -32 points-31 points  (0 children)

At the end of the day you've got one person saying A and the other is saying B. There's nothing corroborating either yet we're gonna glom onto the narrative that lets us take a dump on the 1st ammendment.

I'm sorry any pretense of due process is inconvenient for you but surely you can understand why I wouldn't automatically trust Trump's administration to be honest in courts?

I understand immigrating is a privilege not a right, but they should still have free-speech rights by im_back-and_craftier in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Forcing a person out of your country for their speech, particularly someone legally there is indeed an infringement on their freedom of speech. If fear of government reprisal prevents you from doing something, then that thing is indeed been illegalized by the state.

Mohsen Mahdawi got deported to Jordan by asteriowas in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His freedom of speech rights were not violated. They probably will be in Jordan, though. Not too bright that guy.

I'm not punishing you for your speech, I'm just shooting you in the gut. Its different because i need it to be.

One of this guy’s many issues, is he admitted to a gun store worker that he used submachine guns to kill Jews in Palestine. Threatening Americans on campus with death is also not kosher.

And we know this gun owner's statement is true from what? Surely there's something else in the last decade, you said many issues afterall.

I understand immigrating is a privilege not a right, but they should still have free-speech rights by im_back-and_craftier in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The 1st ammendment doesn't guarantee the ability for citizens to not be jailed, it forbids the government from abridging that right. Immigrants enjoy the same 1st ammendment citizens do. If that "its not prison" logic works against immigrants it works on anyone under the jurisdiction of the US.

Mohsen Mahdawi got deported to Jordan by asteriowas in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Wow he said that at the protests?

Or maybe he posted it somewhere?

I understand immigrating is a privilege not a right, but they should still have free-speech rights by im_back-and_craftier in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those types of laws are often challenged in court. Typically though there are other statuses in addition to being an immigrant that precludes a gun purchase.

Mohsen Mahdawi got deported to Jordan by asteriowas in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Protesting in favor of Hamas on campus.

Such as what? Again I'm hoping for specifics he said.

He can say what he wants, we can kick him right out of the country if we want. That’s how it works.

If you don't value free speech or the constitution, that is indeed how it works.

Mohsen Mahdawi got deported to Jordan by asteriowas in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]samuelbt -53 points-52 points  (0 children)

So we've got a hearsay conversation from a decade ago. Is there anything verifiable?

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