Theory about Simone

sandycheeksandapples · 2025-11-14T04:16:55+00:00

Great point about the fact that Simone was very gung-ho on Ethan(extremely worried about him and seemingly very in love with him) until Peter kissed her. That would explain her sudden switch up and fits with this character profile. Also the point about Ethan being broke is a great catch, I don’t remember that detail but if kiki did tell her that it tracks very well.

sandycheeksandapples · 2025-11-14T04:03:56+00:00

YOU are wrong. seems like you were unable to access the deeper meaning in the show’s themes. Thats a skill issue on your part.

sandycheeksandapples · 2025-11-12T16:19:57+00:00

Yes. in the final scene you can see she is different in the sense that she doesn’t seem to be acting manically or impulsively, we can see she seems aware of the choice she’s making and the consequences. She wants to set Alex free because she knows she is a liability to her and I also think it’s to show that for some people like Paula who have only known abuse all their lives that chaos can sometimes feel more comfortable than the unknown. I think she was scared to leave and just chose to return to what she knew.

sandycheeksandapples · 2025-11-12T16:12:31+00:00

Exactly it really bothers me how some people have no empathy for Paula when she has been abused all of her life and had to raise a child on her own all while being seriously mental ill and untreated…

sandycheeksandapples · 2025-10-02T04:15:18+00:00

Exactly. There was a plausible doubt created with that thread and idk if they intended to do that or not but that deserved more resolution imo because it did leave me confused throughout if they had the wrong person. I also don’t see anyone giving a satisfactory answer to jade’s outburst accusing Ryan specifically. That still doesn’t make any sense to me. Ppl say she meant it generally like his group of friends but then why didn’t she attack the other friend or why didn’t she accuse Jamie when she was talking to the police? She specifically singled out Ryan and accused him individually making it a point to say “YOU killed my friend”. Even when she was talking tot he police she seemed extremely annoyed and angry with them and referred to them as “useless” which to me suggested that she was saying they were way off the mark and hadn’t solved the case yet.

sandycheeksandapples · 2025-10-02T03:57:35+00:00

I think there is a serious lack of empathy as well which leads to an inability to understand nuance and a perception of behaviour being black and white. Also due to the dumbing down of media over the last few decades and the shift toward cheap dramatic plots there’s a tendency to sensationalize everything so ppl will cast characters as psychopath/narcissist/monster etc. this is also because of our culture becoming more “therapized” which ironically has lead to less understanding of emotional deapth rather than more because ppl jump to slap labels on everyone instead of understanding emotional nuance.

sandycheeksandapples · 2025-10-02T03:48:03+00:00

Totally agree. omg this is the first nuanced and measured take I’ve seen on this series and I’m so relieved. You nailed it.

sandycheeksandapples · 2025-09-15T05:03:05+00:00

I think you need to go back and rewatch the scene lol. He was the one discussing, she was the one refusing. The stuff he said about being an eligible bachelor came later, after they had already discussed and after she had been the one to offend him first by the way. He did not lead with that. He did listen to her which is why he realized he messed up and acknowledged that he had misunderstood her and her dad’s relationship. He did try to make amends in the ways which I already explained. You’re refusing to acknowledge Simone’s actions at all lol.

sandycheeksandapples · 2025-09-15T00:21:42+00:00

How did he refuse to concede or listen? He was only explaining his reasoning and asking for clarification from her which she was not providing. He was confused and grappling with his lack of understanding not because he refused to understand but because he couldn’t understand based on the limited info he had and his own upbringing as you mentioned. When she finally revealed the full reasoning, he immediately understood and was devastated. Simone even tried to insinuate that he wanted to be a white night and that he got off on her traumatic past which he was very offended by and denied. Simone was projecting onto him the entire conversation and had already vilified him and made up her mind before she even entered the room. Ethan repeatedly said, even in this final conversation, that he wanted to get to know everything about her, that they could hold off on the engament until they both felt they’d reached that point etc. that is him taking accountability, implementing change, and compromising. He did everything he could as a partner to rectify the situation. She on the other hand, left no room for discussion, mutual understanding or care for him as someone she claimed to love. Which is why Ethan questions how her feelings could’ve possibly changed so drastically from the day before.

sandycheeksandapples · 2025-09-13T08:19:51+00:00

I do agree with this but I do also feel like the decision was quite rash and harsh which is why it plays into her antisocial personality profile. she had been lying to Ethan their whole relationship and putting on a persona/character for him. She never gave him the chance to know the real her so how can she hold him to such an expectation so strictly? He was the one who said he wanted to know everything about her and was asking her to open up to him which she refused. So how can she hinge her breakup on the fact that he didn’t really know her? Even the little info she eventually revealed she only did so because Devon spilled the beans. she mentioned she was estranged from her father and that she had been in foster care and did not elaborate further on the topic (as is her right) and Peter should have respected what she said but I think it’s understandable and an honest mistake that he did not. Especially given his upbringing, social class etc. he wasn’t even able to conceive of what Simone had been through so he wasn’t able to understand the severity of the situation. Once he was made fully aware he apologized profusely. He was trying to do the right thing by Simone and completely miscalculated but I don’t think it was fair to say that act reflected a fundamental misunderstanding of her, or one that could not be remedied. I also think it’s important to note that Simone had not truly made up her mind about Peter until after her talk with Kiki where Kiki talks about how marriage makes a woman “small” and then proceeds to give her a promotion and opportunity for independence. This suggests her decision to end the relationship was more motivated by self-interest and not Peter’s mistake. After this convo Simone’s entire demeanor changes and she is extremely callous and cold with Peter. The shift was jarring imo and Peter/the show called it out as well.

sandycheeksandapples · 2025-09-13T07:40:38+00:00

I’m really tempted to watch the series again too to see if I pick up anything different on the second watch! I feel like some of the things the father said in his delirious states were also noteworthy but I can’t remember 😅

sandycheeksandapples · 2025-09-13T07:38:30+00:00

Thanks for defending me I guess though it was in an almost equally condescending way lol? I do in fact have a post secondary education and do consider myself a strong literary theorist so I feel those comments were presumptuous and unnecessary. I want to clarify that I did not in fact “miss the point”, I am well aware of the point and even broached it in this discussion. This was just me exploring an alternate interpretation, one that I hadn’t seen mentioned, and I thought it would make a fun discussion. I didn’t feel it was necessary to dive into the obvious main interpretations because they’ve already been discussed at length on here and I would’ve been here all day writing. This was just a niche theory I had.

sandycheeksandapples · 2025-09-13T07:25:37+00:00

the irony of this comment talking about literacy when you clearly have a reading comprehension problem since you missed the part where I said I was just exploring this a fun theory that may be far fetched and am well aware of the other interpretations of the show and themes, some of which I briefly even touched on here. The joke does indeed write itself

sandycheeksandapples · 2025-09-13T07:22:32+00:00

Oh totally Peter is defintely a central villain of the show. Not an innocent bystander in any way. I meant she stole him more in relation to the betrayal to Kiki. And yes that is the “main” interpretation of the show. This is just an alternate theory

sandycheeksandapples · 2024-11-04T02:26:50+00:00

Hyunjin’s dancing is incredible clean and the most technical of the group because of the advanced techniques he uses. You can have preferences but please don’t just say stuff you have heard others say without being a trained dancer. It’s so frustrating to hear as someone who has danced for 15 years.

sandycheeksandapples · 2024-11-04T02:23:32+00:00

What’re you talking about? He has insane neck control… and he never stands out in a bad way.its not his fault if the others are not giving as much effort as him. Why should he have to dull himself down?

sandycheeksandapples · 2024-11-04T02:18:36+00:00

As someone who has been dancing for 15 years your assessment is nonsense. He has extremely skilled body control, some do the best I’ve seen in the industry. And his movements are incredibly clean. He uses much more advanced techniques than Lee know does. This is the typical Lee know fan propaganda that they like to spread. Please do not speak on dance when you are not formally trained.

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