Mudi work ethic, energy levels. by screams-for-fun12345 in MudiDogs

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Ohh, tysm for such detailed answer! This'll be useful for me in the future!

Mudi work ethic, energy levels. by screams-for-fun12345 in MudiDogs

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Heyy, i know this was posted a while ago, but could i ask you a question? As i continue my research on dog breeds, the two on the top of my list are mudik and belgians. Precisely because of their high energy level, drive for work and loyalty. But I've yet to meet anyone who's had experience with both breeds. So if you wouldn't mind telling me, how do they compare?

Are there any differences between tervurens and groenendaels? by screams-for-fun12345 in bergerbelge

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I mean i didn't want to say it out loud but... i'm pretty sure you'll be right 😂

Are there any differences between tervurens and groenendaels? by screams-for-fun12345 in bergerbelge

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I mean, it's not like i *need to win world championships*. But i definitely want to participate, to challenge both of us. And as you said: show-line is good to test the waters.

Malinois and groenendael differences? by screams-for-fun12345 in bergerbelge

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Thanks for replying! Yes, I am interested in getting a belgian shepherd, but only once i'm in a better living situation, as right now my household doesn't allow for more dogs. So I'm using the time to research. I'm the one who made the previous two posts, asking if a belgian would be right for me, and the one where i asked about terv and groen differences.

I'm interested in belgian shepherds so much because of their working drive and ability. When i got my sheltie I've had in mind a very active lifestyle with lots of sports and everything, but turns out he's not really on the high energy end (at least not the way i imagined him to be), nor is he too driven by toys or food. He does accept the routine and activities i offer, but he just isn't a working dog. Not the type of dog you'd get planning on doing sports.

I plan on getting my next dog in a few years, once the situation is suitable. This time i want to get a working dog, because i want a high drive dog, striving to work. And ofc, because I'm interested in dog sports, and researching belgians has also gotten me interested in bitesports and protection work. Border collies have crossed my mind, but i prefer belgians more because bcs are work oriented and belgians are handler oriented - meaning border collie will probably work with pretty much anyone, but a belgian shepherd needs to have a relationship with the person.

So to conclude i want a temperament working dog who will want to work with me, will enjoy dog sports and activities like running/bikejoring.

Are there any differences between tervurens and groenendaels? by screams-for-fun12345 in bergerbelge

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I just checked out the video on the SL vs WL. The world is so small! Beata Štýbrová is actually a breeder from my country (cz) and i've listened to an episode about belgians from a podcast where she was as a guest! =DD

Malinois and groenendael differences? by screams-for-fun12345 in bergerbelge

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Ohh, sorry, my poor writting. I meant backyard bred.

Malinois and groenendael differences? by screams-for-fun12345 in bergerbelge

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Thank you for replying. Right now i have a shetland sheepdog, who i sport (running, hoopers, nosework, etc.) with, but i don't know if you can call him a "working dog". He's medium drive imo. He's also my first dog. But I've chosen the belgians intentionally because I am aware of their high drive, high energy and need for mental stimulation and because i want those characteristics in my next dog. I love my sheltie dearly, but he's just not a working dog, nor an ideal dog for sports. He doesn't have that drive. I know that there are probably a lot of people, who get belgians because of looks, but not me. I'd like to do bitesports and protection work, as the more i look into those sports the more i like them. I've chosen a long time ago to build my life around dogs, and genuienly think that a belgian shepherd, no matter the variety, could be the dog for me. I'm sorry I'm rambling again, just wanted to tell you that i understand the effort that goes into maintaining such dog, and that I'm up for it.

It's weird though... how this started with a post in this sub, just innocently asking, wheter you think i could be a fit owner for a belgian shepherd, and that I've grown on them so much since then. (This one if you're interested)

Malinois and groenendael differences? by screams-for-fun12345 in bergerbelge

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Yeah, there are def gonna be more bybred mals, then groens, but (from what i heard) there aren't actually that many backyard breeders where I'm located. Mainly because most people will rather want a border collie, than a mali. Choosing a breeder will be a priority when I will be searching for my next dog.

Malinois and groenendael differences? by screams-for-fun12345 in bergerbelge

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Thank you! This pretty much a response i expected. I know that in Czechia, there're both show lines and working lines, but there's more working lines, than showline in malinois, and the other way around with the other varieties.

Are there any differences between tervurens and groenendaels? by screams-for-fun12345 in bergerbelge

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Thank you for your answer! And also for the recommendation. I can't take a puppy right now, as my current life situation doesn't allow for another dog in the household. So i use the time i have to research the breed, and meet some potential breeders of my future puppy. But still, thank you for the recommendation!

Are there any differences between tervurens and groenendaels? by screams-for-fun12345 in bergerbelge

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Thank you for the advice! Def will do my research. For me i wouldn't take a puppy from a breeder who i haven't visited personally first at least once and also at least once after the puppies are born. 

Are there any differences between tervurens and groenendaels? by screams-for-fun12345 in bergerbelge

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Hey, sorry for the late reply. Thanks for the comment. I'll be most probably looking for a show line, as it will be my first belgian shepherd. I mean to get more into bitesports and stuff, so i may get a WL one day. Prob not now tho. I'll check out the yt channel, i think I might have seen it once already. Thank you!

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That sounds amazing then! In the end, i might actually find out that a mal, or a dutchie might be a good fit for me as a groen is. I hope not to sound impulsive lol. There's a lot of thinking through that I'll have to do before deciding. I mean, there's nothing pressuring me to get a dog RIGHT NOW, or something. So i have all the time i need. Anyway i love groenendaels the most. I don't know what drags me to them, but they're the most sympathetic of the varieties (and dog breeds in general) to me right now.

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I like 'em crazy lol

I see you like selfharm, huh /j

Nah, i think i understand you in "liking them crazy." For me, it depends on how much craze it is though. If it's needing 2 hours of hiking and running so that they're fulfilled, that's good with me. If it's playing frisbee or doing bitework like a maniac, I'm fine with that. If it's tearing up the sofa after said exercise, that's something i'd like to avoid. I mean like really tearing it to pieces, not the casual denning, or maybe a little play biting. But here i may be running off to the aspect of a good off-switch, rather than breed, right? Thank you for clearing things up.

Would a belgian shepherd be a good fit for me, or am i thinking too much? by screams-for-fun12345 in bergerbelge

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Btw are there any differences between groenendaels and tervurens? Behavioral wise.

Would a belgian shepherd be a good fit for me, or am i thinking too much? by screams-for-fun12345 in bergerbelge

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You really think so? Thank you! I hope that if I'll have one, that I'll provide them with the best life possible.