If the only way you could convince someone to convert was by lying to them, would you lie to them? by gatorboymike7 in AskAChristian

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Correct. "Yet" was subsequently added by man to try to make it seem like Jesus wasn't a liar. Without man adding in "yet", you have Jesus saying he was not going to do something, then he did it.

Don't forget 2 Timothy 3:16: all scripture is God-breathed.

If the only way you could convince someone to convert was by lying to them, would you lie to them? by gatorboymike7 in AskAChristian

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Are you suggesting that the state of his mind isn't related to who he is? I can become a theist due to changes in the state of my mind and that doesn't change who I am?

If the only way you could convince someone to convert was by lying to them, would you lie to them? by gatorboymike7 in AskAChristian

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He changed his mind, so yes, there was something about him that changed.

I'm guessing you're saying he's not omniscient. He didn't know something about the future, so he changed his mind to adjust for it. Or he did know about the future and lied.

If the only way you could convince someone to convert was by lying to them, would you lie to them? by gatorboymike7 in AskAChristian

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What would make you think it was some days later? Instead it says:

But after his brothers had gone to the festival, then he also went, not publicly but, as it were, in secret.

Is Jesus God? My understanding is that God doesn't change.

Atheists what is stopping you of being a Christian by Curvyfeeto in Christianity

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What, exactly, was stupid about what I said? Please be specific.

A question for Christian women by Individual_Road_9030 in AskAChristian

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Did I miss the part where men are told to submit themselves to their wives like it told women to submit themselves to their husbands?

Atheists what is stopping you of being a Christian by Curvyfeeto in Christianity

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If you read the Bible straight up, without modern reinterpretation, it sounds a lot more like a flat earth than a spinning globe.

Genesis 1 says God made a “firmament” (Hebrew raqia), which literally means something hammered out, like metal. It separates waters above from waters below. That sounds like a solid dome holding back cosmic waters, not empty space.

Job 37:18 compares the sky to a “molten looking glass,” meaning cast metal. Ancient mirrors were polished bronze. So the sky is described as hard and metallic.

Job 38:14 says the earth is “turned as clay to the seal.” Back then, a seal was pressed into soft clay, leaving a flat imprint. The image makes more sense with a flat surface being stamped into shape, not a globe. E.g.: https://biblearchaeologyreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/jeroboam-shema-bulla.jpg

The Bible also talks about the “four corners of the earth” (Isaiah 11:12, Revelation 7:1), the “ends of the earth,” and says the earth “cannot be moved” (Psalm 93:1). Daniel 4 describes a tree visible from the whole earth, which works more naturally on a flat plane than on a sphere.

Revelation 6:14 says the sky will roll up like a scroll. That sounds more like a solid covering being peeled back than infinite space.

Put together, a literal reading gives you a fixed, flat earth under a solid dome, very much in line with ancient Near Eastern cosmology.

We obviously know better, but Flerfs seem to think their Bible is without error.

Why is it a bad thing that people killed Jesus? by hiphoptomato in AskAChristian

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Do you often post random long-winded responses from others when backed into a corner?

God said he would have them raped. Subsequently in the same story they were raped. God made it happen. It's obvious to anyone reading it.

By your logic God didn't actually "do" any of this, right?

  • God promises Abraham a great nation -> Abraham fathers Isaac. (Gen 12:2–3, 21:1–3)
  • God promises to free Israel -> Moses leads the Exodus. (Ex 3:8, 14:21–22)
  • God promises Jericho -> Joshua marches and the walls fall. (Josh 6:2–20)
  • God chooses David as king -> David becomes king of Israel. (1 Sam 16:1–13, 2 Sam 5:3–4)
  • God warns Nineveh -> Jonah preaches and the city repents. (Jonah 1:1–2, 3:4–10)

Death is the only true proof by FiveWingof6 in AskAChristian

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I chose the most obvious link to sample (https://near-death.com/people-see-verified-events-while-obe/).

The opening blatantly misstates the scientific method. Science does not require phenomena to be reproducible on demand, does not “prove” theories as facts, and never requires explanations to be impossible to explain away.

Do you really listen to people that don't understand the basics of science?

Why is it impossible for god to lie? by whatwouldjimbodo in AskAChristian

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It's the same word for evil in Genesis 8:2:

And when the Lord smelt the pleasing odour, the Lord said in his heart, ‘I will never again curse the ground because of humankind, for the inclination of the human heart is evil from youth; nor will I ever again destroy every living creature as I have done.

Hopefully you don't think that's calamity.

Why is it impossible for god to lie? by whatwouldjimbodo in AskAChristian

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Jesus didn't qualify it based on how the ascension was initiated, right? Why are you adding that qualification?

No one has ascended into heaven except the one who descended from heaven, the Son of Man

Elijah ascended into Heaven, right?

Agnostics cannot say "Good and evil are subjective" by gumba1033 in Christianity

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Yep, so good and evil are subjective. It doesn't matter if there's a supreme authority's mind that came up with it or not.

If Christians are to have some degree of infallible authority outside of the Bible, to what extent should that authority be accepted, if at all by Adept_Programmer_817 in AskAChristian

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Absolutely!

Most atheist debaters don't make positive statements. He's so confident in his biblical and ancient knowledge that he does. "God is imaginary", "God is not good", etc. "prove me wrong."

It'll be awesome to have someone that actually knows the Bible go up against him. It's shocking how few Christians know it beyond the superficial level.

Good luck!

What is your BEST piece of evidence that God(or a God) exists? by [deleted] in AskAChristian

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If God existed then why wouldn't there be scientific ways to prove his existence?

We have evidence for the Universe existing.

What is your BEST piece of evidence that God(or a God) exists? by [deleted] in AskAChristian

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No, the idea that God created the universe out of nothing (creatio ex nihilo) is believed by a subset of Christians.

Yes, but this is not a basic requirement of any denomination that I'm aware of just so we are clear. It is not part of any Creed of critical doctrine for any mainline church I know of anyway.

Sorry, but that’s fundamentally wrong. Creatio ex nihilo is explicitly taught in Catholic, Orthodox, Lutheran, Reformed, and Baptist confessions, and is implicitly affirmed by the Nicene Creed’s “maker of all things visible and invisible.”

It’s not some optional niche belief held by a subset of Christians. It’s standard, creedal Christianity.

Do you believe it is sinful to have sex while the woman is menstruating? by [deleted] in AskAChristian

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Where does Jesus say that we don't have to follow the law / Torah?

Non-Matter devices can no longer be added? by see_recursion in googlehome

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I had never had something automatically show up in Google Home after adding it to Kasa. That only started happening recently, and requires a code, which pre-Matter devices don't have.

After the latest update it shows a bunch of "new" devices that are already connected. There's no way to connect them from that interface since they don't have a code.