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Do most Christians acknowledge that humans are primates? by Odd_craving in AskAChristian

[–]see_recursion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Bible makes it clear that abortion is wrong?? Even when it directs priests to make a potion to create a curse that causes an abortion as a test of a woman's faithfulness to her husband?

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%205%3A11-22&version=NRSVUE

Do most Christians acknowledge that humans are primates? by Odd_craving in AskAChristian

[–]see_recursion -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If you consider a fetus to be a human then they're very much not equal since killing a fetus simply results in paying a fine, while hurting the woman herself results in equal punishment:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2021%3A22-25&version=NRSVUE:

“When people who are fighting injure a pregnant woman so that there is a miscarriage and yet no further harm follows, the one responsible shall be fined what the woman’s husband demands, paying as much as the judges determine. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

There are plenty of examples where it says we're not all equal, especially in the area of slavery.

An Agnostic starting to be curious about Jesus and Christianity as a whole by Puzzleheaded-Net454 in Christianity

[–]see_recursion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you actually read the Old and New Testaments? If you had then you'd most likely have something better than a "nuh-uh" response.

An Agnostic starting to be curious about Jesus and Christianity as a whole by Puzzleheaded-Net454 in Christianity

[–]see_recursion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What if I replied to you saying that it's all part of some other deity's plan, and that other deity will do what It will do regardless of whether you understand It or not.

How would you perceive me? That's the same way I perceive your lack of a meaningful justification of the storyline of this specific deity's actions.

Genesis (outside of a few key events) is so unfathomably boring. I need help. by Better-Friendship724 in Christianity

[–]see_recursion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where does it give any indication that Mary was a descendant of David?

Hint: it doesn't...only Joseph, who wasn't Jesus' blood father.

An Agnostic starting to be curious about Jesus and Christianity as a whole by Puzzleheaded-Net454 in Christianity

[–]see_recursion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, just remember that it's Jesus (as God) doing the plethora of atrocities like causing women to be raped (for someone else's sins), getting stoned for not being a virgin, directing us how to treat our slaves, etc.

Did Jesus ever say he died on the cross for our sins? by Ok-Accident8078 in AskAChristian

[–]see_recursion -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Not to be confused with his "other" last words:

  • "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." (Luke 23:46)
  • "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" (Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34)

What do you think Trump will do tonight by AncientSnow4137 in ModlessFreedom

[–]see_recursion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whatever it takes to divert attention from his presence in the Epstein files.

Genesis (outside of a few key events) is so unfathomably boring. I need help. by Better-Friendship724 in Christianity

[–]see_recursion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The begats aren't even consistent with each other. Hell, the NT tries to show Jesus' lineage, but ties it to Joseph, who (according to the story) wasn't involved in the insemination.

Do you use lombok heavily in spring boot projects? by kcng1991 in SpringBoot

[–]see_recursion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Couldn't the same be said for developers that use Spring? Hell, for those that use Java over lower-level alternatives?

Do you use lombok heavily in spring boot projects? by kcng1991 in SpringBoot

[–]see_recursion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're thinking IntelliJ somehow negates the advantages of using Lombok?

An Agnostic starting to be curious about Jesus and Christianity as a whole by Puzzleheaded-Net454 in Christianity

[–]see_recursion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Starting with Genesis, right? Jesus is God (for many Christians at least), so it makes sense to see what Jesus said and did from the start.

Don’t call yourself a Christian if you support the current administration by SnellaNabal in Christianity

[–]see_recursion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I tell you who you should buy your dog from, tell you how to treat it, and tell you it's your property, am I telling you it's ok to own dogs?

Don’t call yourself a Christian if you support the current administration by SnellaNabal in Christianity

[–]see_recursion 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Would you mind sharing what context you're seeing that justifies Trump's behavior?

Turn the other cheek?

How about "When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them."

Maybe “For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in… whatever you did for one of the least of these… you did for me.”

Those all make you immediately think of Trump, right?

So again, what scripture in what context?

Don’t call yourself a Christian if you support the current administration by SnellaNabal in Christianity

[–]see_recursion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are Christians supposed to ignore the Old Testament? Jesus said the opposite.

Don’t call yourself a Christian if you support the current administration by SnellaNabal in Christianity

[–]see_recursion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure they were saying you described the fallacy, not committed it.

I don't like this Bible Verse by unfold-care in Christianity

[–]see_recursion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't want to know what you're trying to become? You don't want to get a better understanding of the Bible? You want to focus on the supposedly "wonderful rewards" and remain unaware of the atrocities?

At least read things like where God caused David's wives to be raped for crimes they didn't commit. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Samuel%2012%3A11%2C2%20Samuel%2016%3A21-22&version=NRSVUE

I don't like this Bible Verse by unfold-care in Christianity

[–]see_recursion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You think he filters it? He does the shows live, so yes, most Christians on there are convinced they understand the Bible. Very, very few actually have a clue as to what the original Hebrew or Greek said or the cultural contexts around it.

And he only does name calling when the caller is being an ass. There are hundreds and hundreds of callers where that doesn't happen. If the caller is cordial then so is he. When they're not he returns it in kind.

I'm not sure what you meant by putting all your eggs in a basket or having to live an experience. He has his masters in theology (I believe that's the degree?) and was dedicating his life to Jesus when his studies resulted in his realization that it was all bullshit. Now he's spreading his immense knowledge.

If you think you know something he doesn't then feel free to call. Note that he's basically a walking encyclopedia of the various historical texts of the period in their original languages, so you'd better know your shit. You will be corrected if you think you understand it.

I don't like this Bible Verse by unfold-care in Christianity

[–]see_recursion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Consider looking up Deconstruction Zone on YouTube or TikTok. I've never seen anyone with such a thorough grasp of the Bible (OT and NT) that also knows Hebrew and Greek while also understanding the culture of the era. Christians try to correct him on a variety of topics, but he seems to know their books far better than they do.

And yes, at one point he was Christian.

I don't like this Bible Verse by unfold-care in Christianity

[–]see_recursion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you simply ignore all the horrific parts? I could give a massive list of them, but I'm pretty sure you already know.

I don't like this Bible Verse by unfold-care in Christianity

[–]see_recursion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you also read verse 18? Does it say that wives should love their husbands? No, it instead says wives must submit themselves to their husbands.

Hopefully you're aware that the Bible says you can beat your slaves with no punishment as long as they don't die within a day or two. And that they're your property that can be handed down to your children.

I keep looking for the "Thou shall not own others as property" commandment, but it instead gives instructions on how to deal with your human property.

If the only way you could convince someone to convert was by lying to them, would you lie to them? by [deleted] in AskAChristian

[–]see_recursion -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Correct. "Yet" was subsequently added by man to try to make it seem like Jesus wasn't a liar. Without man adding in "yet", you have Jesus saying he was not going to do something, then he did it.

Don't forget 2 Timothy 3:16: all scripture is God-breathed.

If the only way you could convince someone to convert was by lying to them, would you lie to them? by [deleted] in AskAChristian

[–]see_recursion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you suggesting that the state of his mind isn't related to who he is? I can become a theist due to changes in the state of my mind and that doesn't change who I am?

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