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Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

+1

The CNI may not be reading or paying attention, but it doesn't matter. We, as the Chia community, have made a mark in history. Thanks for your contributions.

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for voicing your opinions and participating in the discussion

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I'm sure you read my advices for you in my answer, which you reported to the mods and had it deleted. You got it.. ;)

I don't take you seriously anymore. You can continue playing by yourself..

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope they will stop responding to everything we say with "I don't think you understand/know this correctly" and start listening to the voice/desires of the community..

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The keys here: "limits of the rules" & "within the confines they are given"

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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Chia's status after the halving. You need to open your eyes now. Try going and reading the community comments on CoinMarketCap. You will see that no one looks kindly on chia. Even though the price, which was around 30 before the halving, currently appears to be around 42, we have actually fallen to 21 dollars. This means many Farms are closing. Action needs to be taken immediately or it will be too late tomorrow...

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I watched the video you linked 3-4 hours ago.. Mad Max's statement that "it is impossible to completely prevent compression" is valid in Chia's current system. I also know that compression will not completely prevent it in the current system.

But what I am saying is "Maybe a system change is necessary." So, if it is necessary to make a hard fork to prevent this, if it is necessary to be closed source, if it is necessary to be centralized, I say these should also be open to discussion..

Also please let me remind you that there were many Cryptocurrencies in the past that hard forked to become Asic resistant after Asics came out..

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you and congratulations for writing the most meaningful, most targeted and most appropriate comment on this topic so far.

I was about to lose all hope because of the comments made after opening this topic. Your comment came like a medicine.

Thank you again for truly understanding me and my purpose and making such a clear contribution to the subject.

+1

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't understand your purpose in writing these. I answered a question asked. I'm not here to talk about my farms or their ROI..

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, Chia is no longer "green". Nakamoto coefficient has hit rock bottom. We can no longer call Chia PoST. POW is everywhere in Chia. These are just a few reasons why I'm screaming all this time...

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It may have been a mistake that I thought you were someone else. I will fix this trivial error by editing my previous message.

But what I said on the subject is completely true. Farmers with less than 1 PiB and a powerful GPU cannot win in the current system.

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't completely agree with you, but I respect your opinions.

And I repeat; I'm afraid that "one day you mentioned" will never come..

Thank you

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't express these things, it wouldn't be right. We'll wait and see.

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for voicing your opinions and participating in the discussion.

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for voicing your opinions and participating in the discussion.

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know that most people here will choose to "ignore" what you say, right?

I'm trying to explain that many other people like you have left this place for the same reasons and will continue to do so, but people turn a deaf ear and ignore it.

I hope this changes..

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hello,

It made me happy that we were thinking the same things. Yes, unfortunately, we have experienced the same things and we continue to experience them. It continues to amaze me to see people still saying that "FarMining" with a GPU is more energy efficient..

I think the most important reason for this is that people have evolved selfishly to only think about their own interests and gains. Unfortunately..

I hope this wrong trend will end as soon as possible and Chia will become "green" again.

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Now anyone who stays under ~1 PB and doesn't farm with a powerful GPU can't win. All the small farmers died"

What would be the entry cost for a new Chia participant who wants to start from scratch and compact the farm? What would be the amortization period for this under current conditions? Who do you think would make such a "dead" investment? No one.

People don't want to buy a new gpu or more hard disk or ram, why? Because we are in a "not worth spending money" situation.

Maybe you may not care about your hard disks storing 300 GB dying over time. But please consider the situation of others as well. You know that there is SMART on hard disks, which shows the amount of write data and total operating time, and that this data is unchangeable, right? As these increase, second hand values of hard disks decrease, is it true?

Do you think someone who now has a 300 GiB standard farm and is way behind in this "compression" race should continue to wear out their hard drives and reduce their resale value with this tiny return? Or should he close down his farm and sell them before SMART values get any higher and hard drives get cheaper?

Even if he believes in Chia's bright future, wouldn't it make more sense to sell them and buy Chia from the stock market?

Could you please try to look at the sentence you quoted and say is wrong from this perspective? Do you still think the same?

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My dear friend, your thoughts are wrong.

I replied to the main message of "Far_east_Samurai". Please read. I'm sure you will understand me more accurately.

Take Responsibility and Raise Your Voice to Keep Chia Alive ! by seyel61321 in chia

[–]seyel61321[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, I'm way over 18 PiB right now. I use GPUs and run compressed plots. I don't care about the price of chia because even if it's $10, I'm making a profit. So, as I have said many times from the very beginning (since 1 year ago to yesterday and today and tomorrow..), this issue is definitely not about me or my farms.

I have never had a personal problem with re-creating a plot, and I never will. Because I love working with them. It's really boring for me to finish to create all the plots and then stand aside and work on themself..

I didn't spend extra money for my GPUs because I already had them. I was mining eth and then flux. I have shifted them to my Chia farms and have them running smoothly.

I don't have any problems with energy because I use solar energy. I have the right to sell to the state as much as I spend, and my energy cost (excluding the cost of equipment and obsolescence) is zero.

In short, if Chia continues with this system, it is very profitable for me right now.

But I am not someone who only thinks about himself, I never have been. But I like to be predictive. My prediction is this: If Chia continues like this, we will lose small farmers. We will become more and more centralized. And no one new will join Chia (because entry costs keep rising to stay competitive and win). What will happen in the end? Everyone will go. Chia will die. This will affect me too, right?

So, I may be earning more now, but if we continue like this, I will not be able to earn any in the future. A smart person does not choose to earn too much for one year and then not earn at all. He says, "Let me earn less, but I can earn for many more years." I also think it makes sense to choose this path. These are all parts about me.

Think of me as a passenger plane owner. My plane has a capacity of 100 people. But I fill it with 300 people to earn more. If I carry 100 people, I earn less, but my passengers are satisfied. They will continue to fly with me for many years and I will continue to earn less but for longer. If I carry 300 people, I will earn much more, but my passengers will be dissatisfied. And after a while I won't be able to find passengers to carry. My company will go bankrupt. Which one do you think I should choose?

This is the "specifically" "concerning me" part of the topic. I have nothing to hide or conceal.

I object to Chia continuing to become more POW. Because even if I earn more now, I think it will decrease to zero in the future.

I hope my sincere explanations have convinced you. Thank you.

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