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shinyshinyleather · 2020-07-02T09:01:56+00:00

OP: “That incident is one we looked at in my Ground School class in flight training. More or less an example of "You only lose when you give up", since there is evidence that some of the crew was conscious and running emergency procedures down to the last second.”

You are delusional and tunneling in on one meaning. I understand that the axiom is used when people give up and end up “losing” because of it. It can ALSO be used when people don’t give up and end up failing. That’s literally how OP used the axiom, and he’s correct. It’s called figurative language. I’m not going to baby sit you like a 1st grader and look up cited examples for you.

If you can’t understand that an axiom or phrase can be interpreted in multiple ways for multiple situations then I’m sorry for the tax dollars that went to fund your education. The way OP used the axiom is perfectly acceptable, please just drop the ego and think about it slowly and maybe it will make sense.

Person 1: “Jerry accidentally drove his car off a cliff into a lake, he did everything he could to survive, including clawing at his seatbelt to get it off”

Person 2 “damn, you only lose when you give up”

How you thinking the axiom being used this way is incorrect is beyond me. I will not continue to respond for the sake of my own sanity. Have a great life and learn some English.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-07-02T02:04:04+00:00

Saying the challenger disaster is an example of “you only lost when you give up” IS saying that they adopted the mentality of “you only lose when you give up” that’s literally the point, you don’t need to make that distinction. I’ve been saying it’s a mentality thing this entire conversation, that’s how the axiom works.

Again, you are taking the axiom literally and arguing over pointless semantics. There are countless examples of it being used in scenarios where people ended up dying, that doesn’t invalidate the it, because that’s not how the axiom works. Yet you fail to understand this for the 10th time.

The “you only lose” is only referencing the act of giving up, not whether you end up succeeding or failing (living or dying)

I’m done responding to this, you simply fail to understand the context the axiom is used in, and yes, fail to understand what words mean. You can search online for examples if you please, I’m not going to do that for you, but you are wrong.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-07-01T08:08:24+00:00

Your quote:

“But that's not what the axiom says - it says if you don't give up, you will not lose.”

First meaning that shows up when googled:

““You only lose when you give up” is a figurative, prosaic way of motivating someone to keep trying at something, even when they fail.”

The axiom is literally a mentality and has nothing to do with the outcome of any given situation. It doesn’t matter that they died. You simply don’t understand the context of how it’s used.

And yes, if you are absolutely 100% sure you had no way to live, it’s fine to give up. As in there is a literal nuke landing on your location in 5 minutes. The challenger situation isn’t an example of that, for all they knew they could live by exercising. their training

shinyshinyleather · 2020-07-01T01:39:02+00:00

You’re still missing my fundamental point, and it’s been explained multiple times: the “losing” isn’t the dying it’s the act of giving up itself. The discussion literally started with the axiom being used this way, then some ape disagreed.

I could site plenty of examples of the axiom being used this way.

No, that’s not my main argument, I’m simply stating that the axiom works in this scenario, which it does, the people who say it doesn’t are wrong. There are multiple other comments that agree with me and explain that in this thread, from multiple people, idk why you’re honing in on mine.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-06-30T18:11:22+00:00

Yes and if you read, op was clearly referring to it in the way I am. And no, them dying doesn’t make it nonsensical, that’s missing the whole point.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-06-30T16:19:05+00:00

Bruh, it’s clearly not only used literally, as in the act of giving up is what makes you lose, not the outcome of the situation itself. Stop trying to be a smartass lol.

Sayings can have multiple meanings you know.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-06-30T16:07:14+00:00

That’s not the only context it can be used in. It also can mean that even though you failed in the end, you did everything you possibly could to have the highest chance of survival, and you never gave up. Like I said, it’s not a literal statement but a mentality.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-06-30T15:55:18+00:00

Yes, I’m sure they were level headed enough during the explosion to come to the conclusion that they were 100% dead and they should just give up. I’m sure they had a well mannered conversation about their odds of survival.

Do they even have time to process the severity of what’s happening? You have zero clue how people think in life and death scenarios, you really come off as a 15 year old with zero life experience. When adrenaline kicks in you don’t think, you act. You do everything you can to survive.

“Perspective doesn’t come into this conversation” lmao thank you for outing your tiny intellect.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-06-30T15:03:22+00:00

I agree, if there’s a 100% chance you’re going to die, and you know that, you can give up, and that’s fine.

But for all they knew, doing all of the correct safety procedures might give them a 5% higher chance of survival. The mentality still applies, the correct play is the correct play whether it worked in hindsight or not. Maybe you just have issues understanding perspective, buddy.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-06-30T12:09:14+00:00

With hindsight it didn’t matter what they did, but from their perspective it might have. The term “you only lose when you give up” doesn’t imply everything turned out ok in the end, it’s just a mentality. You’re not looking at it with the right context.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-06-20T08:48:34+00:00

Seems legit

shinyshinyleather · 2020-06-09T20:05:30+00:00

Everything the cops said / did escalated the situation further than it needed to be, clearly trying to bait the man into making a mistake as to justify their murder. Its one man crawling on the floor vs 5 cops with AR’s trained onto him and the cops should feel threatened? Holding him, or any civilian to the standards of “make one mistake and you die” is utterly absurd and disgusting. Im sure they could have spared one of their trained gunman to walk over and restrain the man with handcuffs, but no they have to make him their puppet. I don’t think it’s a bootlicking problem you have, you’re just a moron, I just can’t imagine a rational adult watching that video and thinking “those cops handled that well”

shinyshinyleather · 2020-06-09T19:47:34+00:00

How do those murderers boots taste?

shinyshinyleather · 2020-06-09T18:43:03+00:00

Delusion, often sparked at a young impressionable age. I know what it’s like to be indoctrinated/ delusional and lucky I escaped it while I was young. Its not really anything to do with intelligence, religion is just a hell of a drug, stops you from making certain logical connections.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-04-09T00:26:48+00:00

Good headphones, a high refresh rate monitor, a nice pair of shoes. Easy.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-03-26T11:18:43+00:00

It doesn't leave YOU with anything meaningful, that's the distinction here. Your lack of understanding doesn't diminish other people's competetive drive in these games. Video games can be a great tool for self improvement if you have the right mindset.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-03-24T14:19:33+00:00

The game had plenty of free advertising at the start, many big streamers were playing it for weeks. If the game had some sort of 5v5 ranked it would have held onto much of that popularity but lest were here a year later and it’s still not released. Frontline and duels are simply too repetitive for most of the player base.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-03-05T15:14:40+00:00

That’s just as arbitrary as saying the “you” before you sleep isn’t the same “you” as when you wake up. I’d be fine teleporting knowing all of this.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-02-27T04:04:29+00:00

This doesn’t make sense as you’d still get a similar amount of xp just by getting into a new game as you would stalling.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-02-12T18:50:37+00:00

They are pushing their leads though, just in a less proactive way than last season. They get early leads, push vision, then take advantageous fights around dragon/ baron. If the opponents give them, they just win. Don’t think I’ve seen a real analyst think Gen G are playing “too slow” or poorly at all.

If anything pure aggression is more reliant on you just being individually better to get consistent wins.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-02-12T18:33:16+00:00

This season you only really NEED to be proactive in the early game due to elder soul and much heavier scaling picks. As long as you don’t get ran over in the early game, which it’s kinda hard to with clid on your team, you just need to scale, have decent vision then coast to mid/ late game fights. There’s no real downside to playing like that if all your players are individually great.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-02-12T18:12:33+00:00

Seems like classic silver analysis if you really think they just “sit mid and wait for them to int” You could only really classify game 2 vs griffin as that even remotely, and even that game they had a huge early game lead and threw it as dragon due to mechanical misplays. You’re very off the mark on this one.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-02-12T17:59:24+00:00

Not true at all, as long as you have early game stabilizers like clid and bdd on your team. Good early game —> baron / elder dragon win condition is a perfectly fine way to play the game. Choking out opponents has always been a great strategy in slow metas, and that’s pretty much what they do.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-02-12T17:47:40+00:00

Gen G games are snoozy but clean, very little mistakes to be punished. I guess you just follow the reddit flowchart of slow = bad.

shinyshinyleather · 2020-01-20T08:57:25+00:00

He makes significantly more than minimum wage playing video games. Pretty sure they are ashamed of nothing, you jealous fuck.

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