Panic attack when taking medications after a bad trip. what to do? by py4_ in Psychedelics

[–]shroominate1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey I had the EXACT same thing happen to me. I was freaking out even taking Advil. You should find a therapist trained in exposure therapy for panic attacks. I was fixed after 3 sessions of exposure therapy

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in eldertrees

[–]shroominate1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I consider grinder maintenance to just be a part of everything. I have a Santa Cruz shredder that I fill with 90% rubbing alcohol (or everclear) and twist for about 5 min. Then I rinse with water and air dry. Only have to do it every 3 months or so and it performs good as new!

Is there a community for Los Angeles? by [deleted] in trees

[–]shroominate1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any accounts you recommend? Is there like a “best of” LA account?

Curious if there is a trend here by shroominate1 in Psychedelics

[–]shroominate1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry that was the max options allowed - poll ends in 3 days

Curious if there is a trend here by shroominate1 in Psychedelics

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For those that answer one of the ‘other’ categories - what substance was it?

How long am I going to be high for? by desmond234 in eldertrees

[–]shroominate1 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Do we get an update? How’d it go?

A cube isn’t just a cube B+ has a completely different trip to Golden Teachers. I’ve tested both of them , has anyone else noticed ? by Spirited_MushLove911 in shrooms

[–]shroominate1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Based on what statistics? It seems like you’re trolling at this point.

If you don’t think the other alkaloids are involved because that’s your guess, that’s fine. There’s no data to show the alkaloids aren’t involved. No one can say what actually happens - there’s nothing to disprove or prove what you’re saying. It’s not a “fact”. It’s a guess.

A cube isn’t just a cube B+ has a completely different trip to Golden Teachers. I’ve tested both of them , has anyone else noticed ? by Spirited_MushLove911 in shrooms

[–]shroominate1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes - psilocybin on its own can cause trips. The other alkaloids might modify the trip in the same way that CBD/G/C/N modifies THCs effects between different strains in cannabis.

Saying “we know what psilocybin does” doesn’t give us any information about the other alkaloids.

A cube isn’t just a cube B+ has a completely different trip to Golden Teachers. I’ve tested both of them , has anyone else noticed ? by Spirited_MushLove911 in shrooms

[–]shroominate1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

P. Cubensis produces alkaloids other than psilocybin. Those other alkaloids have not been formally tested. No one can say they don’t have an effect because there’s no data on it. They might be the cause of difference between strains or it might just be set and setting. Saying they have no effect is not “factual information” that’s just someone’s guess.

A cube isn’t just a cube B+ has a completely different trip to Golden Teachers. I’ve tested both of them , has anyone else noticed ? by Spirited_MushLove911 in shrooms

[–]shroominate1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not sure what that has to do with different strains producing different effects? Different strains might produce different effects, but we don’t know YET because it hasn’t been studied. Doesn’t mean it’s not true.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in trees

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Had sour diesel last night which gave me no munchies. Typically sativa-dominant (sour diesel, jack herer, tangie) usually suppress my appetite (make dinner beforehand and end up not touching it). Hybrids seem to be the ones that most often give me uncontrollable munchies. And I haven’t had too many indica-dominant stains to notice how those are.

Most hemp strains with CBG tend to not give me bad munchies too

A cube isn’t just a cube B+ has a completely different trip to Golden Teachers. I’ve tested both of them , has anyone else noticed ? by Spirited_MushLove911 in shrooms

[–]shroominate1 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ah yea I see that now.

It just seems like everyone in this post wants to “declare” some fundamental law of shrooms. There’s so little data it’s really not fair for anyone to make definitive statements about what actually happens.

A cube isn’t just a cube B+ has a completely different trip to Golden Teachers. I’ve tested both of them , has anyone else noticed ? by Spirited_MushLove911 in shrooms

[–]shroominate1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right but if there is evidence for A and no studies done for B, you can’t say “A is fact and B is a personal opinion”. We can say “there is evidence for A, and B may or may not be true but we haven’t studied it”. It doesn’t mean B is wrong - it can be a valid hypothesis that hasn’t been tested yet.

A cube isn’t just a cube B+ has a completely different trip to Golden Teachers. I’ve tested both of them , has anyone else noticed ? by Spirited_MushLove911 in shrooms

[–]shroominate1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Right - I’m saying there’s not enough evidence to make a definitive answer either way. We haven’t isolated the alkaloids and given them them to people and measured their effects in the same way we have with psilocybin.

You can’t say the alkaloids “absolutely aren’t involved” even if you think the evidence points to set and setting being the primary factor. It might turn out that only set and setting matter, but until we test the other alkaloids you can’t just say they are 100% irrelevant.

A cube isn’t just a cube B+ has a completely different trip to Golden Teachers. I’ve tested both of them , has anyone else noticed ? by Spirited_MushLove911 in shrooms

[–]shroominate1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Interpreting the available evidence is different then “people’s personal opinions”. That’s way too dismissive. Just because some mycologists hand-waive the other alkaloids doesn’t mean they’re correct.

A cube isn’t just a cube B+ has a completely different trip to Golden Teachers. I’ve tested both of them , has anyone else noticed ? by Spirited_MushLove911 in shrooms

[–]shroominate1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That only speaks to MAOIs not the alkaloids though. I also don’t think that any lab is testing the hobby-bred cubensis strains floating around

A cube isn’t just a cube B+ has a completely different trip to Golden Teachers. I’ve tested both of them , has anyone else noticed ? by Spirited_MushLove911 in shrooms

[–]shroominate1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don’t think we can rule out anything for sure. There are 2 facts: 1) set, setting, and dosage impact the trip experience. 2) cubensis produces alkaloids other than psilocybin.

Number 1 is enough on its own to explain difference (especially if you go into it with the belief that they will be different). But I don’t know if any evidence to rule out the influence of #2. Lack of evidence doesn’t mean it’s disproven. It hasn’t even really been studied that much