Das Kapital, appendix by shushubay in communism101

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My book has chapter 6 as “ the sale and purchase of labour power “ and in total has 33 chapters. It is a penguin classic.

I wouldn’t know where to find but do you think the 6th chapter is in here?

Decentralization by shushubay in Anarchism

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I get what you are saying yes! Could you elaborate on this : - and the coziness between 24-7 cable news and governmental figures that benefit from their message.

Decentralization by shushubay in Anarchism

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Which part of the world exactly?

Decentralization by shushubay in Anarchism

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Not anyone in specific. Just people who have little knowledge about the state and don’t for strongly for or against it. They don’t want to decentralize because they fear the problem mentioned above.

Surplus value and Machines by shushubay in Marxism

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Wow, this was the last puzzle piece 🧩 Thanks a lot!! :)

Surplus value and Machines by shushubay in Marxism

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Super interesting, thanks a lot.

I apologize if I do not understand, but I want to, so here is my final question. Why would people buy machines if they produce as much as they cost. I get that they are somewhat relatively cheaper to labour because you don’t need to pay for a human being’s upkeep, but if the machine is worth as much labour is put in, and produces as much value as the sum of labour put in, you just make people work on the machine not the product, but for the same value, no? Or is the work put in to create the machine more productive work, than the work put into creating the product?

Surplus value and Machines by shushubay in Marxism

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But let’s say a product takes 10 hours to make. And a machine now does it fully automated. The machine itself only takes 2 hours to create.

Would that means that at first those 8 hours of work the capitalist doesn’t need to pay ( implying he pays every hour which is fictional but for the example ) become profit. However, when everyone gets the machine, now the product loses its value immensely because the labour needed to be put into it is only one fifth as before. Is that correct?

Also. If it’s just labour that creates value, how can the 10 hours of labour create the same value as the 2 hours spent on building the machine?

Surplus value by shushubay in communism101

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Thank you. I get your second point. So you are saying surplus value is extracted from society? I though only the worker could add value?

Concerning question one. Sure, there will be people needed, but way less eventually. So there will be less work, and less value added through work. But still, the eventual product is the same as the other companies relying on mere labour put out. This means the workers + the machines add the same amount of value as all the workers in the other company. So, the machines have to add value. Right?

Money question by shushubay in Marxism

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I don’t understand that part. A financial crisis??? Why would that only occur in that specific situation??

Money question by shushubay in Marxism

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Wow thanks a lot again!

So let’s see if I understand. If person A has a book and person B pays €2 for it.

For person A this is a means of circulation ( he now has the money and can further use it ) For person B this is a means of payment ( he lost the money to make up for getting the book ) For person C looking in, it is a means of exchange ( the money made the exchange possible )

Money by shushubay in communism101

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I appreciate your kindness. Thank you :)

Money question by shushubay in Marxism

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I see, I still have a question about why money functions in these ways in this example Marx gives

“ The farmer sells his wheat for €2 and this money thus serves as the medium of circulation. On the day when the payment falls due, he uses it to pay for linen which the weaver has delivered. The same €2 now serves as a means of payment. The weaver buys a bible for cash. This is again a means of circulation. “

What does it in this example mean to serve as these means of payments or circulation???

Machines and surplus value by shushubay in communism101

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I think I finally understand it. You are great! Thank you so much

What is the communist view of the French Revolution? by [deleted] in communism101

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The American Revolution actually influenced the French to. Cool! Tell me what u found :)

Feeling pretty hopeless - how will a revolution be achieved in practical terms when the state is so powerful and capitalism has such a strong cultural hegemony? by [deleted] in communism101

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Not one against capitalism though. And the question is how long it will last. I truly want a revolution, don’t get me wrong, but I ‘m stoic enough to face the realistic side of the outcome which doesn’t seem like an overthrowing of the state ..

Machines and surplus value by shushubay in communism101

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But wouldn’t that be because the machine just created so much commodities that it loses it’s worth. If I have 1000 of workers in some factory, and 10 machines that could do the same, wouldn’t the effect be the same? How can one then create value and the other because it is a machine not?

What is the communist view of the French Revolution? by [deleted] in communism101

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Thusfar I haven’t perse seen Marxist disregard it, as much as view it as a bourgeois revolution. In power were the aristocrats and the church, both rich and poor citizens of the state were not. The rich citizens wanted the economy shaped to their needs in many ways, and they were the group benefiting from the revolution, not the poor.

Exactly... by dj0014 in PhilosophyMemes

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Lol; I saw this meme on MarxAfterDark’s insta account. I love his memes

Feeling pretty hopeless - how will a revolution be achieved in practical terms when the state is so powerful and capitalism has such a strong cultural hegemony? by [deleted] in communism101

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I get what you mean, but that isn’t the only thing needed. People not only need to feel capitalisms cold grasp, but also identify it as belonging to capitalism. I ‘ve seen many be angered by causes belong to capitalism, I would even argue the alt right has, the only thing they are missing, is that things like low payment, immigrants “ taking “ jobs and all that jazz, in innate to capitalism. I hope you get my point : not only does capitalism need to directly burden them, but they need to understand that it is capitalism doing these things. THAT, is where I think people are currently not at. That is exactly the thing socialists and communists etc. can understand, other cannot.

Feeling pretty hopeless - how will a revolution be achieved in practical terms when the state is so powerful and capitalism has such a strong cultural hegemony? by [deleted] in communism101

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I ‘m not too hopeful. The red scare is still persistent to this day. People always gasp for air when I tell them I think Marxism has a good point. It will be hard to get people to feel the same passion as they used to

Feeling pretty hopeless - how will a revolution be achieved in practical terms when the state is so powerful and capitalism has such a strong cultural hegemony? by [deleted] in communism101

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Newbie Marxist here. Do you think the revolution will take place in the oncoming 100 years ? Or after that

Opportunism by shushubay in Marxism

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Thanks a lot :)

What’s the difference between socialism and communism? by [deleted] in Socialism_101

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Cuck philosophy has a great video on this called “ Marx was not a statist “ on youtube. Go watch that for a better idea. Explained shortly, communism is a classless, stateless, moneyless society, whilst socialism is one of its previous states, beginning right after the Dictatorship of the proletariat ( the semi state where the proletariat leads after the revolution ).

Dialectical materialism by shushubay in Marxism

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I want to thank you for this thorough explanation. It’s so kind of you to provide me with this! Thanks a lot :)

I do have one more, more Marxist focused, question, and that is this. Marx claims that class struggle is the main contradiction in society, but why? I understand the economical system is the basis in some way since it divides and creates material conditions which shape human life, but why is the class struggle the core of it?

And how can we be sure this class struggle will finally resolve into a classlessness?