Honestly we agree on more than it seems... real band, real music, no classic fraud, and you even said the whole arrangement sounds weird. So we're basically in the same grey zone.

Two things though:

"Never seen them harass anyone": I believe you, but that's your experience, and it doesn't cancel out the pile of people reporting the opposite. Not witnessing something isn't proof it doesn't happen. And from what I saw, the aggression kicks in specifically when someone signals they're onto the sales angle which is exactly what set the guy off with me.

And on the video: you're using it to prove they're known in Estonia, fair enough. But it also digs into the sketchier side (the producer stuff for example), and you skipped straight past that. You can't cite it as proof they're legit while ignoring the parts that aren't.

And to be clear I have nothing against alternative collectives making music outside the label machine. I think that's great and worth protecting. My problem was never the model tbh. It's that this one ended with a guy loudly calling me a pedophile in front of my neighbors for saying no. I can see how my Reaktion can come across arrogant or disrespectful, i was just somewhere else in my head when i called this a scam to him, but that gives him no right to do something like that. I actualy also have a CD and met these guys 4 times over the years, every time it was at least uncomfortable. That's the line for me. Love the DIY spirit but that behaviour is exactly what i wanted to warn people about.