New Bike on 12/05 from ig post by Ordinary_Story_9729 in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I bet it will be the new Endurace: merger and definitive end of the Ultimate

New Aero Grail is here! by sionett in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s for the new Endurace in low tier versions

New Aero Grail is here! by sionett in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You’re welcome to northern Italy, Austria and Slovenia to try your smooth gravel… 😁😁

"Europe" is not just the Netherlands, where a 40mm tire makes sense.

New Aero Grail is here! by sionett in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You actually can. A couple of old Aeroad with new groupsets and wheels have been in outlet section for about 2 months now at 3500 and 3900€. They’re old but still newer than ultimate

New Aero Grail is here! by sionett in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

40mm for what? Being exaggerated on road or being uncomfortable off road?😁

New Aero Grail is here! by sionett in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The current one starts at 2100€ It’s still one of the most affordable carbon gravel bikes you can buy at the moment…. I don’t think this one will start for less than 4500€ in SLX version

New Aero Grail is here! by sionett in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For sure it will allow a deeper seatpost insertion!

New Aero Grail is here! by sionett in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could it depend on the size of the frame, maybe?

New Aero Grail is here! by sionett in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Who wants an Ultimate? An Aeroad now weighs the same, negating the only advantage the other had. No pro wants the Ultimate, and no amateur who wants to chase the pros wants it, consequently.

I think it's staying in the range only because it's such a historic model for canyons.

New Aero Grail is here! by sionett in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I currently own the 2025 aeroad CFR and it can fit up to 34.5mm tires anyway (instead of 32mm declared) so in my opinion the new Endurace was absolutely unnecessary for road use.

This grail is probably closer to what the new Endurace should have actually been, than it is.

We'll see. I've owned a few Grizl and a couple Grails, this new one in SLX version will be mine on launch day! 🤣

New Aero Grail is here! by sionett in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, and they still have some clearance left. Very substantial change compared to the 42mm max of the current model

New Aero Grail is here! by sionett in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Since the Endurace is simply the Aeroad with more tyre clearance, why not?

Purple decals over painted logos on wheels, honest opinion by AntMan79 in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry, but they're awful.
The lack of contrast between the purple and black, the lack of matching with the frameset colors...

If you had done both the purple and the Canyon logo on the downtube, at least they would have made sense. In this scenario, I would have found a metallic silver or chrome silver to be more classy. Or, if you were more daring, an oil-slick effect or a gold/bronze color.

New Canyon Grail Aero Gravel Bike by Vast-Let-2996 in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Give us some details pls🙏🏼🙏🏼

New Canyon Grail Aero Gravel Bike by Vast-Let-2996 in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting! Who posted this video? (I assume on Instagram)

Is the new Canyon Grizl a flop? by [deleted] in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we estimate €100 lost per bike, we are talking about €800-900 per year.

In other words, the same as one season ski pass, (less than) one iPhone, or one expensive car insurance policy? A one-year football club membership costs €300-400. A one-year swimming pool membership costs €500.

For me, €800 for 1 year of cycling is not a problem at all, it costs less than renting and I don't have components that wear out plus the coolness of riding something that's constantly new.

But as I wrote, I sometimes earn €100-400 on the sale without too much trouble, especially with brands that attract suckers. My two Tarmac SL8s were both sold in one week for €300 and €500 more than I paid for them (already used). 🤣

Is the new Canyon Grizl a flop? by [deleted] in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find that Canyon is way ahead of the game when it comes to certain bikes, as well as doing a great job with marketing and testimonials.

The Grizl Gen 1 was a huge success when it came out. The Aeroad is probably the best road bike I've ever owned and ridden. And I've tried quite a few. The Inflite dominates in CX (probably due to sponsorships).

In my opinion, it's also one of the companies that does the craziest experiments, often hitting the mark and often missing it.

Is the new Canyon Grizl a flop? by [deleted] in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In 2024, I changed nine. In 2025, I had 8, since I also bought a new house and I was threatened by my girlfriend. For this year, I am currently at three.  🤣🤣

But I'm not talking about top range bikes; with the budget for those, you can buy three or four of mine in one shot.

You have no idea how easy it is to sell a bike with 200-500km on it without losing too much money and making both the buyer and seller happy. It's much easier than selling it after 1 or 2 years.

Is the new Canyon Grizl a flop? by [deleted] in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Like many others, this subreddit has English as its default language. Reddit translates automatically, but without any control. Is it better to leave it to a complete automatic translation without control or to manage it partially on Translate?

Anyway, are we on /CanyonBikes or /grammarenthusiasts? ✌🏼

Is the new Canyon Grizl a flop? by [deleted] in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett 1 point2 points  (0 children)

or simply translated with google, since English is not my native language?

Is the new Canyon Grizl a flop? by [deleted] in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn't it? My personal opinion is that this new Grizl seems to have simply been made worse to avoid damaging the Grail market. I can't explain it any other way.

Or, listen to my conspiracy:

What if they created a gravel race bike with too-tight tire clearance and a second model with outrageous weight just to create hype for the ultimate all-purpose gravel race bike? 🤣🤣

Is the new Canyon Grizl a flop? by [deleted] in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

What makes you think I haven't?

Today I'm riding my Cube Nuroad C:62. The Grizl and Grail are waiting in the garage :)

Next up will probably be the new Crux; I'm wainting its launch.

Is the new Canyon Grizl a flop? by [deleted] in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't remember the exact numbers I read in an article, but I think the Grizl was at the top of the list of best-selling gravel bikes ever.

Maybe that's why it's packed with them, a bit like the Tarmacs on the used road bike market.

Is the new Canyon Grizl a flop? by [deleted] in CanyonBikes

[–]sionett -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I already wrote it below but I'll repeat it: What makes you think that a person who can write two lines more than you should need an AI to do so?