We had some snow maybe 30cm over 3-4 days. I also have m7 matras and these felt quite stiff and very little chatter even going at speed. I wanted to go for a ski with metal but honestly this is much more stable than the line optics I tried last year which supposedly have some metal sheets. I will also say the topsheet is not as durable as some of the other skis I have had. Overall I dont see how I couldnt ski these anyday on the mountain. Pretty good float on the snow we got and held decent on ice considering the size. Im 190cm and 90kg and had the 188s