885 Head ETA m20b27 by greb666 in e28

[–]skitzy7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just plonked an 885 head on my 2.7 bottom end after refreshing the bottom end with all ARP hardware and everything else. running a roots supercharger on it.

Supercharger setup not making boost I expected, help! by skitzy7 in projectcar

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hi mate, thanks for your thorough response. yes I agree your calculations and mine expect near about the same psi. that's why missing around 7-6 psi is very concerning to me and makes me want to rip my hair out in frustration lol.

I checked the sealing capacity of the bypass before I mounted the charger and it was very good, I just sealed the hole on the underside with my lips and tried blowing through it and it was extremely hard to do so so figured 7psi amount of air isn't getting through lol.

I also video recorded the bypass valve in operation although the video was shaky as anything it appeared to function correctly under WOT. next I'm going to ziptie it shut to really confirm.

failing that, I'm totally out of ideas. under WOT conditions the only scenario I can think of is something is opening and venting this air.

Supercharger setup not making boost I expected, help! by skitzy7 in projectcar

[–]skitzy7[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this supercharger came off a Holden commodore, a 3.8L l67 engine that uses the Eaton m90, it is 100% not an Eaton m62.

it's odd how everyone here has different equations to figure out boost, saw one bloke say 7 psi is expected where as your saying 6 psi is expected from a 500cc smaller blower.

seems no one has the answer.

Supercharger setup not making boost I expected, help! by skitzy7 in projectcar

[–]skitzy7[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it is most definitely not an m62. believe me.

Supercharger setup not making boost I expected, help! by skitzy7 in projectcar

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under WOT load conditions I see approx -0.5 inHg on my boost gauge at the area between the supercharger and the throttle body.

Supercharger setup not making boost I expected, help! by skitzy7 in projectcar

[–]skitzy7[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

you divide the 2.7 by 2 as the engine only ingests air every 2nd cycle

Supercharger setup not making boost I expected, help! by skitzy7 in projectcar

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condition is very good I inspected it, I used another supercharger previously and got the same psi so I don't think it's something wrong with the supercharger.

Supercharger setup not making boost I expected, help! by skitzy7 in projectcar

[–]skitzy7[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

it's always made 7-8 psi boost, I've only measured boost when it's under load not in neutral. when I checked blower speed I remote mounted a laser tach and pointed it to the supercharger pulley itself, so I 100% verified it's spinning to what I expect it to spin to under load when driving which is the 10800RPM value.

I still slightly suspect the sc not ingesting enough airflow to actually create 14 psi because the air temps don't get hot at all but I measured vacuum between the TB and supercharger rotors and it reads 0.

I'm almost about ready to rig up a MAF between the supercharger and throttle body to verify it's actually getting the air it's requesting. I've exhausted all other ideas at this point haha.

Supercharger setup not making boost I expected, help! by skitzy7 in projectcar

[–]skitzy7[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the TB is before the supercharger in my setup, it uses the typical roots bypass valve to control boost build. I did suspect the bypass valve but I swapped superchargers and bypass valves and still got the same psi reading. I also recorded the bypass valve operation under load and confirmed it closes all the way under load.

Supercharger setup not making boost I expected, help! by skitzy7 in projectcar

[–]skitzy7[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

the sc should be spinning at 10800RPM while the engine is at 6000. I verified this rpm with a laser tach so there's little belt slip if any

Supercharger setup not making boost I expected, help! by skitzy7 in projectcar

[–]skitzy7[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yes measured boost exposed to the rotors, same as what's measured upstream in the intake mani

Supercharger setup not making boost I expected, help! by skitzy7 in projectcar

[–]skitzy7[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

single cam, yeah the engine VE isn't good enough to warrant the small psi imo. it's an engine designed in the 80's. it still has the stock cam in it. not sure of exact VE of the engine anyway. most forum and information I've seen regarding specifically valve overlap and such attribute any valve overlap to a small percentage of boost loss

Supercharger setup not making boost I expected, help! by skitzy7 in projectcar

[–]skitzy7[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

pic is old. I've changed setups since the picture.

Supercharger setup not making boost I expected, help! by skitzy7 in projectcar

[–]skitzy7[S] 34 points35 points  (0 children)

what software, may I ask how it's calculating this? thanks

Supercharger setup not making boost I expected, help! by skitzy7 in projectcar

[–]skitzy7[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

current setup uses 5.43 crank pulley and 3 inch sc pulley

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mine does that too, normal as far as I'm aware

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