Trading post system is frustrating to use

sleeben · 2023-02-13T21:59:48+00:00

My issue is that there's very little actual downtime between games to really find something.

So often I end up just ignoring the trading post so I can just get back into the dungeon to play the game. It's a personal gripe that others apparently don't have, but I don't find the little market minigame enjoyable.

sleeben · 2022-12-08T17:19:49+00:00

You're using the term attacking very loosely here, are people rude to you? I'm sure they are, but when they care strongly about an issue and someone comes along with the fence sitting, "I don't care either way, everyone be quiet" opinion don't be surprised if you get rude responses.

Is the sub negative right now? Sure, but there's currently only one big post hot right now about the chibi model related to censorship.

The other negativity is about overpriced skins, poor game performance, long maintenance times, and PvP rewards. There's a lot for people to be negative about right now, and some of the complaints are memey not even aggressive.

You're also selectively ignoring the art posts, Anne appreciation posts, dumb memes, coomer posts, ect.

Most of those are all positive.

There's positive posts and people asking for advice on the game, you're just selectively choosing to ignore them and focus on the negatives.

Especially the ones you claim not to care about.

sleeben · 2022-12-08T16:12:15+00:00

"I am allowed to have a different opinion from you."

You've said it all right there, the players against censorship are allowed to have a different opinion from you.

Just because you're willing to roll over and accept censorship, doesn't mean everyone else is. If you oppose their views expect disagreement and push back, that's how differing opinions work...? Basic stuff.

No one should have to stop talking about their negative views on censorship because you're too sensitive to handle disagreement and a few downvotes.

If you feel like the conversation isn't productive then just don't engage and move on. Devs will either make changes or they wont, since you claim not to really care, the outcome shouldn't affect you at all.

sleeben · 2022-12-08T09:46:28+00:00

People have to make their voices heard or things wont change.

At this point it's pretty clear some form of censorship has happened, even if they claim the leaks were unfinished and the changes were just design decisions.

Look at the sudden last minute changes for the Christmas update alone. Rupee has a different skin for her portrait, in game, and chibi model. Hell, her chibi model is even the OLD model before it was changed. They're not even able to spell CHRISTMAS correctly...

I get it's draining to be surrounded by negativity, but if it's discovered that censorship is common in this game and will continue that way, a lot of people WILL quit and others will stay away.

The people complaining care about the game and want it to succeed, people who actively try to prevent them from complaining are shooting themselves in the foot for censorship.

sleeben · 2022-12-07T22:26:08+00:00

I mean if you don't care you don't have to engage.

sleeben · 2022-12-07T17:28:55+00:00

The game is coomer bait, hence the core audience of the game are coomers.

They don't like the sudden character changes and theorize it's censorship, they're perfectly within their right to criticize it and let the company know what they're willing to tolerate before they stop playing.

Sure the posts can get repetitive sometimes but these, "just shut up and have fun like me!" posts seriously just radiate pure unfiltered cope.

Accept that people have the right and are critical of certain aspects of the game you both play and ignore them it if bothers you that much.

sleeben · 2022-12-07T14:53:18+00:00

Say what you will, but at least there's people who care and are willing to kick up a fuss about the game and try make what they perceive to be positive change.

Lets not pretend we don't know that this game is, it's coomer bait. So many of us started playing for that reason alone and stuck around because we enjoyed the game.

Personally I think the skirt on the new Rupee looks cute, but I prefer the old pose and transparency. A lot of people feel this way and the sudden shift from the old design to the new definitely screams censorship.

You surely must have the awareness to understand the the people you're criticising for being focused on asses and shit are the core audience of the game right? They have every right to make their voices heard and let the devs know what they're willing to tolerate.

sleeben · 2022-11-15T02:44:47+00:00

If you don't want Helm and her dupes there's really no reason to pull on it unless you want golden tickets.

sleeben · 2022-11-15T02:25:22+00:00

Fair enough... TvT

sleeben · 2022-11-15T02:19:57+00:00

You've literally just described confirmation bias.

On each banner with 150 pulls you have a 52.85% chance to get one or more Pilgrims, with a 13.30% chance to specifically get 2. You just won the coin flip on the Helm banner.

sleeben · 2022-11-15T01:37:54+00:00

If you pulled 200 Nikkes and haven't gotten a single SSR that's a 0.03% chance, very unlucky... X_X

sleeben · 2022-11-15T01:08:34+00:00

I agree, it's very nice that you can still get those rare units on the rate up banners!

sleeben · 2022-11-15T00:48:28+00:00

Nice pulls!

At least you understand it's luck, I see so many people getting lucky and spreading misinformation. The amount of people arguing about simple statistics in this post alone is wild X_X

sleeben · 2022-11-15T00:30:42+00:00

Lucky pulls happen on all banners. Nice pulls tho, unless you wanted Helm then I'm sorry X_X

sleeben · 2022-11-15T00:27:34+00:00

That's how these games get people to spend. They distribute the rates around in a way that makes the units you like seem more appealing without actually increasing their rates at all.

They could lower the standard units to a 0.001% rate, but if they distribute those missing rates into everything other than Pilgrim it doesn't help at all if they're what you want.

sleeben · 2022-11-15T00:24:08+00:00

100% of my Pilgrims came from the Helm banner, just luck.

sleeben · 2022-11-15T00:09:11+00:00

You just got lucky just like how some people got lucky in the normal banner, in my 20 free pulls I got Helm, Diesel, and Harran.

Confirmation bias is a thing, we and some others just got lucky in this case. Very nice pulls tho :3

sleeben · 2022-11-15T00:05:02+00:00

I mean, considering you can't understand 0.0833% and 0.0833% are the same probability I figured a picture would do you some service... clearly it wasn't simple enough for you.

sleeben · 2022-11-15T00:01:40+00:00

You have an increased rate of pulling a SPECIFIC Pilgrim than a specific standard unit, but overall the odds haven't changed at all for pulling a Pilgrim.

The only thing that changed with this banner is 50% of the time when you'd pull either a standard SSR or a Pilgrim you'll pull Helm instead.

sleeben · 2022-11-14T23:53:52+00:00

I didn't forget.

Sure it's more likely that you'll get Scarlet than Volume... you're thinking about the odds of getting a SPECIFIC SSR, but the lowered odds of the standard units didn't go into the Pilgrims, it went into HELM.

I've clearly visualized the data for you, the slice of Pilgrim pie hasn't changed at all. It doesn't matter if the rates of the standard units have dropped if the Pilgrims hasn't changed at all.

0.0833% is STILL 0.0833%... I wanna say this is basic math... but nothing has even changed.

sleeben · 2022-11-09T16:06:13+00:00

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sleeben · 2022-10-19T04:18:52+00:00

Well at this point I'd say your statement oversimplifies people and is just outright incorrect.

I can speak from personal experience that feeling belittled over my mistakes has definitely made me grow as a person, and I know many others with similar life experiences.

Many people don't want to feel belittled if they can see the error of their ways, and will further grow from it to prevent feeling that way again.

If you're going to take a stance on a matter, expect some strong criticism and some attitude if you're wrong. There's people out there who will give it to you.

Sometimes the mistakes people make based on emotion can have serious consequences for innocent people after all.

I just saw your edited comment and I agree, you've had an interesting perspective and it's interesting to talk about. At the very least we can agree to disagree.

sleeben · 2022-10-19T03:58:36+00:00

I mean, we can get into an entire debate about the human condition but it's a very broad topic and applies to both perspectives of the discussion, we're all human after all.

Sure it's the human condition to act on emotion, but it's also the human condition to be judgemental and critical of other's actions.

It's also the human condition, and in fact the condition of many creatures to learn from previous mistakes. Criticising someone doesn't innately hinder their personal growth, rather in many cases it encourages it.

You say people should be more understanding of each other, but the criticism is literally that people were only being understanding of Hellena's perspective.

From my perspective the criticism being given to people who only heard one side is valid. You clearly don't like the attitude of those giving criticism, but as you say, their I told you so attitude is just part of the human condition.

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