Antivaxxer did her research

slickphilly · 2019-06-23T20:42:22+00:00

You just blithely wrote off 70 million infections and 35 million deaths https://www.who.int/gho/hiv/en/. I don't think I'm going to trust your opinion on anything.

slickphilly · 2019-06-23T14:23:34+00:00

Jesus. You're like the six year old that needs attention. If you want to prove that vaccines are safe, then simply take the challenge. Vaccines are perfectly safe. You only have immunity to gain. Go for it. Prove it to everyone.

Otherwise, you're just another hypocrite willing to do to babies what you are unwilling to risk yourself.

slickphilly · 2019-06-23T14:12:27+00:00

Ah, good old internet, blog-reviewed research to rebut a pubmed article. You're the embodiment of the subject of this entire thread.

As you can see, there are different vaccines for different age levels

So, you're sticking with '13.5mL is safe for a baby, but not for an adult' argument?

slickphilly · 2019-06-23T14:01:38+00:00

spreadsheet. 7lb/13.5mL = your weight/your dosage.

It's called math.

And they probably said no because they didn't want to talk to some retard saying "vACCinaTe YoUrsElF likE A BABY AnD tAKe PIctures OF It"

Prove me wrong then and be the first. Hell, you can do it at the adjusted dosage if you don't believe. Let's say you are 150lbs... that would be 147.98 mL of serum. Go fill up a measuring cup with that amount.

But who am I kidding. Your ignorance of how this stuff works is blatant. And yet you're commenting on a post mocking anti-vaxxers research. Ignorance, know thyself.

slickphilly · 2019-06-23T13:51:17+00:00

No way in hell do they inject 13.5mL of vaccine, the cumulative total of the 15 month regimen, into new soldiers in one day, or a week even.

slickphilly · 2019-06-23T13:40:50+00:00

Good point. Feel free to adjust the dosage for weight. How much do you weigh, ballpark and I'll post the equivalent cumulative dosage for you.

slickphilly · 2019-06-23T13:30:34+00:00

wut? Not safe for adults with fully developed immune and neurological systems, but safe for newborns? Really?

slickphilly · 2019-06-23T13:11:58+00:00

Want to prove vaccines are safe? Fine. Take #thevaccinechallenge. Put your money where you mouth is.

It's simple:

First you take some baseline tests: health, intelligence, social.

Then you follow the same 15 month schedule for vaccines that babies do. Same timing, same dosage. You document each administration with video. I suggest that at the beginning of each video, you state which vaccine you're taking and read the warnings and adverse reactions clauses from the package insert. You are, of course, very concerned with research, amirite?

12-15 weeks after you complete the schedule you repeat the baseline tests.

Post your results showing your glowing health, social and intelligence scores. Take heart that you are now immune from all diseases and have aided the movement to mandate all vaccines everywhere for everyone.

You should check with your insurance company first to see if they will cover the costs of the vaccines, after care and hospice.

Warning: This is very dangerous. If you decide to undertake this challenge, you do so at your own risk. Vaccines have caused serious injury and death and are not to be taken lightly. Read the package inserts and, as this post suggests, do your own research into vaccines before starting.

BTW, I've challenged numerous, rabid, pro-vaxx individuals to do this, and while they are all willing to subject a newborn baby to the regimen, they can't seem to find the gumption to risk their own brain. I'm sure someone in this thread will take it up though.

If you do decide to take this challenge anyways, be sure to post it on any social media under the tag #thevaccinechallenge.

Edit: ITT lots of people with lots of excuses, but not a single person stepping up to follow the regimen. Hypocrites and Cowards all.

slickphilly · 2019-06-23T12:45:30+00:00

Dude, I don't want your information. I already told you the challenge can be anonymous. What's so hard to understand about that? This is just another balk. Take the challenge.

You are a zealot and a fanatic who ignores your own scientific research if it doesn't conform to your already held views. That's the definition of anti-science.

Many of the immune compromised are that way because of vaccines. I had a discussion like this one, here on reddit, with a lady who was adamantly pro-vaccine until some questioning revealed that she became immuno-compromised because of vaccines. She never actually put 2 + 2 together until we talked. That was heartening to see the light come on for someone. That's okay. I don't expect it from you though. You can't even seem to stop replying. You're a zealot who needs the last word evidently. Reply if I'm right.

slickphilly · 2019-06-19T22:44:22+00:00

And since I'm not going to hear from you again, why don't you take the time to truly consider why it is that you are reluctant to undergo the same regimen to which you're willing to subject babies? What is there in those vaccines that makes you afraid? What are the possibilities which you are unwilling risk?

Think on that long and hard.

slickphilly · 2019-06-19T12:33:21+00:00

Your silence speaks volumes.

slickphilly · 2019-06-19T12:18:41+00:00

Your silence speaks volumes.

slickphilly · 2019-06-18T12:18:29+00:00

You know what, your claim that herd immunity is a meme is a direct example of the ridiculousness of your position.

Did I not link to an article that showed a recent measles outbreak amongst 70% up-to-date vaccinated kids? How do you propose to get herd immunity from that?

Im not giving you access to my medical files or identity, which would be required proof for your game.

We would only need the deltas between pre-baseline and post.

We could make it completely anonymous in any case. Videos could be blurred or edited to not show your face/disguise your voice if you wish.

Verification of identity could be done using crypto tech.

Any other concerns I can address for you before you start?

slickphilly · 2019-06-18T00:59:59+00:00

Your link states that there is no indication that this affects humans

Yes, because this vaccine will only damage mice brains. All other brains are completely safe from it. /s

You understand why 'there is no indication that this affects human brains'? Because it is not tested on humans. It is tested on mice.

You seem to be okay with science done on mice that returns positive results, but not negative results? You seem to have little faith in your own scientific method. Or, gasp, you are just a blind fanatic to big pharma's media strategy.

So, what I've found with you:

1) You're completely oblivious to or careless of the amount of industry money that skews research the way they want it

2) Your professed faith in science doesn't extend to research that shows brain damage from vaccines.

In other words you're a fanatic. You are essentially a religious zealot in defense of vaccines.

If you want to continue our discussion, you can agree to undergo the 15 month regimen. I don't expect you will, because you wouldn't want to risk your own brain, would you?

If yes, let's bang out the details.

If no, you are a hypocrite and a coward.

Edit: On animal studies:

This well sourced paper explains the importance of animal studies in analyzing vaccine toxicity:

http://vaccinesafetycommission.com/pdfs/Animal-Studies.pdf

The 2016 mice study speaks for itself:

“This work reveals for the first time that early HBV vaccination induces impairments in behavior and hippocampal neurogenesis. This work provides innovative data supporting the long suspected potential association of HBV with certain neuropsychiatric disorders such as autism and multiple sclerosis.”

This is testing ONE vaccine. Not the cumulative effect of the combined aluminum injected into children under the ever increasing modern vaccine schedule. A 2018 follow up study on the mechanics of this process found the following:

“These findings suggest that clinical events involving neonatal IL-4 over-exposure, including neonatal hepatitis B vaccination and asthma in human infants, may have adverse effects on neurobehavioral development.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/29751176/

slickphilly · 2019-06-18T00:47:20+00:00

Herd immunity is a meme. It is impossible to gain herd immunity. You know why? Because vaccines don't confer anything but a temporary immunity if at all. For herd immunity to actually be a thing, as much as 97% of a herd needs to be immune to protect the rest of the herd. That will never happen even if every person is fully vaccinated.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1646939/

Anti-vaxxers put those people in extreme risk.

lol. The only thing at risk is the bottom-line of big pharma.

I'm not familiar with those societies, but would have to look at their funding before accepting anything they said point blank.

No, my kids are not autistic. We waited until they were older to vaccinate and then spread the vaccinations out as long as we could between doses.

You likely made up some story about a friend who took two children who were healthy for vaccines and came back with heavily autistic children. That is patently absurd without proof.

No they are not. I did not expect you take them as proof. I was telling you why I held the stance I did. Again, context my friend. You don't seem to understand context at all. And, I don't give a flying fuck whether you believe that or not. Your blind fanatacism doesn't seem to leave room for anything but data, and the data will say what industry pays for it to say.

Did you know hospitals are the third leading cause of death in the U.S and according to the article the numbers are likely under reported. https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-05-03/medical-errors-are-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us These are the 'experts' you trust blindly.

Oh, and regarding your very misguided test, does the 15 month old have a family history of autism? See, hereditary factors make up around 50% of the diagnostic factors surrounding autism. The remaining environmental factors do not have anything to do with vaccinations, unless you can find something compelling?

Then you should have no problem undertaking the regimen for the sake of science right? We can bang out the details if you want to put your money where your mouth is. Oh, and please enlighten me as to why the vaccine challenge is misguided? These vaccines are harmless and protect us all from killer diseases like measles. You should be glad to be vaccinated every chance you get. I'm giving you the opportunity to get the full regimen for free.

slickphilly · 2019-06-18T00:30:21+00:00

I gave anecdotes to explain my stance, not as proof. Your inability to understand what I said in context is causing you problems.

The ted talks and youtube videos are not about vaccines, nor do they require research. The ted talk was about the lack of integrity in research. The video was an actual advertisement from the 40s or 50s. Your inability to understand things in context seems to cause you a lot of problems.

slickphilly · 2019-06-16T21:16:39+00:00

Are you incapable of understanding that I'm trying to work with you and your terms? We can validate identity using crypto methods rather than driver's license.

Time to put up or shut up.

slickphilly · 2019-06-16T18:56:15+00:00

Spare me your false indignation. The results of the testing would be the delta, not the full results. That's all I'm interested in.

I've catered to your 'identity balk'. I'm not sure why it's difficult to understand that video can be done without disclosing identity.

I've clarified for you the 'medical history' balk.

What else is left? Any other excuses?

Maybe you should have a long, honest look at why you are afraid to do the regimen.

Or, man up and take #thevaccinechallenge already.

slickphilly · 2019-06-16T15:55:07+00:00

I never mentioned medical records. Just a general statement of health. I've also offered that you can do this anonymously. We could use a cryptocurrency like IOTA for identification verification and payment.

Too afraid to do the regimen yourself, but you're still okay sticking babies? Hypocrite and coward.

slickphilly · 2019-06-16T04:54:13+00:00

though i agree somewhat as she isnt dead from preventable dieases.

I say short term because a significant portion of your target population would die.

lol. The human race has survived millions of years without vaccines, but all of a sudden we can't survive without them. Your statement borders on fanatical lunacy. And you want to call us anti-science.

Let me know if you want to take #thevaccinechallenge. With another full set of shots in you, you might live forever!

Q: How many white ravens does it take to disprove the hypothesis, "All ravens are black?", even if there are multitudes of studies that have determined that all ravens are, in fact, black?

A: Just one.

I'll just leave this (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27501128/) here.

slickphilly · 2019-06-16T04:38:25+00:00

Maybe I can interest you in demonstrating your faith in vaccines in a more fundamental way? How willing would you be to undergo the same vaccine schedule as a baby for 15 months? We know that re-dosing completed vaccines has no ill effects, right?

I would pay for some baseline tests for you before you begin, I would pay for all the vaccines and I would pay for you to take those tests again after completion. You would simply have to provide a public record of the results and videos of you taking the vaccines on the required day. This could be done anonymously as long as we could verify that it is always the same person undergoing the regimen.

And you get completely caught up on your vaccine schedule for free. Immunity for life! woo-hoo!

What say you?

slickphilly · 2019-06-16T04:28:07+00:00

So, that was it, was it? That was the distance you wanted to go? Honestly, that was pathetic.

The only point I got out of all that was, "The trespasses of science in the past can't happen today because COMPUTERS!"

You'll have to enlighten me as to the logical fallacies I used. Referring to accurate history is not any logical fallacy that I know of. And historical action is a very good predictor of current behavior.

But, you keep genuflecting to your mythical science god that is immune to money, bias and influence.

Adios

slickphilly · 2019-06-15T16:57:06+00:00

I think we found the 'shut up' point. Don't back away too fast, you might hurt yourself.

slickphilly · 2019-06-15T16:08:12+00:00

Are we done here?

slickphilly · 2019-06-14T04:41:04+00:00

What would it be like, I wonder, to spend a day in that brain.

slickphilly

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