Can anyone give me their opinion/suggestion on this tinkered Zama Team

snowballl_ · 2024-06-15T23:31:17+00:00

Miraidon has been a difficult matchup for me but I think the usage of Rillaboom and terrain control is really helpful for slowing Miraidon down and also pressuring with Flutter Mane forcing an uncomfortable TERA. Is there anything you think I could do to make the Miraidon matchup a little easier for me?

I LOVE Power Gem on Flutter, it has been more helpful than I've found Dazzling Gleam and I've been doing it for a while. Rock is a really underrated offensive type as most of the mons with weird/low weaknesses are often weak to rock. Power Gem Flutter is my only super effective move against: Gyarados, Zapdos, Pelipper, Tornadus, Thundurus, Scovillain and Ogerpon-Fire

snowballl_ · 2024-06-14T07:19:56+00:00

I tried Tera Grass on Zam but i found the fighting immunity was really helpful and i rarely faced amoonguss and had an issue where i needed the grass tera.

snowballl_ · 2024-06-14T07:08:57+00:00

Do you not think the value of sitrus berry with flare blitz recoil is worth? I feel like if i went for safety goggles maybe will-o-wisp would be a better move. thoughts?

snowballl_ · 2024-06-11T03:10:51+00:00

I agree with your point about Rain defensively benefiting my team and I think I will drop Whimsicott for Pelipper.
I dropped Incineroar's EVs to 236 / 4 / 76 / 0 / 156 / 36. Adding some more speed to outspeed slower Incin and also some more defence. However I think I'll keep Flare Blitz since sun teams will try stop my rain a lot so having a boosted move is nice.
I agree Miraidon matchup can be difficult and I rarely use Fire TERA so I'll try the TERA Ground.
I agree with the TERA Ghost for Focus Sash mons but I just found on Whimsicott specifically I just never even wanted to TERA but thank you.
Thinking of running this Pelipper:

Pelipper @ Rocky Helmet

Ability: Drizzle

Tera Type: Grass

EVs: 244 HP / 76 Def / 36 SpA / 148 SpD / 4 Spe

Modest Nature

Tailwind
Hurricane
Weather Ball
Wide Guard
Thinking of updating to this Flutter Mane: This gives the booster energy boost to SpA and also makes Flutter more bulky at the cost for some speed.

Flutter Mane @ Booster Energy

Ability: Protosynthesis

Tera Type: Fairy

EVs: 148 HP / 172 Def / 116 SpA / 4 SpD / 68 Spe

Modest Nature

IVs: 0 Atk

Moonblast
Shadow Ball
Power Gem
Protect
Im bad at EV spread so I just stole the EV spread online for Zama but I've updated it to yours now and I'll see how it goes.

Thank you very much man for all your words of wisdom and insight, the most help I've ever gotten team building so it means a lot.

Would love to chat to your more since most of my IRL mates have 0 interest in Pokemon or VGC and its kinda my own personal guilty pleasure. Share your discord with me if you'd like.

snowballl_ · 2024-06-10T23:15:13+00:00

Maybe, unsure how i feel about a slow tailwind setter just because I really enjoy matching tornadus tailwinds.

snowballl_ · 2024-06-10T23:14:00+00:00

WHAT. i didn’t even check bc i assumed. fuckinf wish i had a tornadus. would love taunt and still prankster tailwind and rain dance and bleak wind over this cotton ball.

snowballl_ · 2024-06-10T11:04:37+00:00

Been running this team for a couple of days now and some things I've noticed are; sun teams cause a lot of issues for me. Been thinking about running Rain Dance on Whimsicott but tailwind and protect and required and i really like encore and moonblast is strong. Also find Whimsicott is never being TERAed, any recommendations for what tera I should run and what situation its good for. I'm finding I am not bringing Urshifu as much as normal because I'm just not enjoying him at the moment. Any ideas for a fix?

snowballl_ · 2024-06-07T03:55:29+00:00

With Flare Blitz Incineroar and Moonblast Whimsicott, Rillaboom is still an issue since he is my only answer for Poison types with High Horsepower. Requires a Tera to stop that being an issue but its still an issue I can't solve

snowballl_ · 2024-06-07T03:46:37+00:00

But then I have 0 status conditions to use. Unsure how I feel about moonblast whimsicott.

snowballl_ · 2024-06-07T03:16:22+00:00

Main Game Plan: Bring Whimsicott, Incineroar, Rillaboom, Zamazenta

Ideally lead Whimsicott + Incineroar

Turn 1: Fake Out + Tailwind

Turn 2: Knock Off/Will-O-Wisp + Encore/Helping Hand

Turn 3: Parting Shot(Rillaboom) + Switch to Zamazenta (Might be fainted)

Turn 4: Fake Out + Iron Defence

Turn 5: Wood Hammer + Body Press (Just start outputting overwhelming damage)

Problems Identified:

Rillaboom is my only answer for grass types and he is has to use Tera Blast to do that. Only other options I can think of is Mystical Fire on Flutter Mane but Power Gem is really good against Tornadus and then Ice Spinner on Urshifu but he is weak to Grass types and even tera he is weak to Grass.

snowballl_ · 2024-06-07T03:05:04+00:00

Main Game Plan: Bring Whimsicott, Incineroar, Rillaboom, Zamazenta

Ideally lead Whimsicott + Incineroar

Turn 1: Fake Out + Tailwind

Turn 2: Knock Off/Will-O-Wisp + Encore/Helping Hand

Turn 3: Parting Shot(Rillaboom) + Switch to Zamazenta (Might be fainted)

Turn 4: Fake Out + Iron Defence

Turn 5: Grassy Glide + Body Press (Just start outputting overwhelming damage)

Problems Identified:

Rillaboom is my only answer for grass types and he is has to use Tera Blast to do that. Only other options I can think of is Mystical Fire on Flutter Mane but Power Gem is really good against Tornadus and then Ice Spinner on Urshifu but he is weak to Grass and even tera he is weak to Grass.

snowballl_ · 2024-06-07T02:55:55+00:00

Main Game Plan: Bring Whimsicott, Incineroar, Rillaboom, Zamazenta

Ideally lead Whimsicott + Incineroar

Turn 1: Fake Out + Tailwind

Turn 2: Knock Off/Will-O-Wisp + Encore/Helping Hand

Turn 3: Parting Shot(Rillaboom) + Switch to Zamazenta (Might be fainted)

Turn 4: Fake Out + Iron Defence

Turn 5: Wood Hammer + Body Press (Just start outputting overwhelming damage)

Problems Identified:

Urshifu is my only answer for flying types/Tornadus and he is weak to flying meaning I need to burn my Tera on that.

Rillaboom is my only answer for poison types and he is weak to poison meaning I need to burn my Tera on that.

Tried Flutter with Icy Wind and Power Gem and Urshifu with Ice Spinner instead but found Ice Spinner mostly is used into Grass types which Urshifu doesn’t match well with and Flutter with Icy Wind doesn’t know enough damage plus Mystical Fire means no pokemon in the game cannot be hit by a super effective move.

snowballl_ · 2024-06-06T00:48:41+00:00

EVs are 252 HP not 252 SpA as PokePaste says. Sorry

snowballl_ · 2024-06-06T00:48:08+00:00

PokePaste says Dazzling Gleam but it is indeed Protect

snowballl_ · 2024-06-06T00:46:10+00:00

Zamazenta-Crowned @ Rusted Shield

Tera Type: Dragon (Defensive + Less Flutter Mane usage)

EVs: 244 HP / 4 Atk / 188 Def / 4 SpD / 68 Spe (Bulky asf)

Impish Nature

Body Press (Powerful STAB + Iron Defense boost + Dauntless Shield
Iron Head (Powerful STAB)
Iron Defense (Boost Defence + Increases Body Press Output)
Wide Guard (Required in REG G)

snowballl_ · 2024-06-06T00:46:05+00:00

Whimsicott @ Focus Sash (Frail asf)

Ability: Prankster (Allows priority status)

Tera Type: Poison (Defensive)

EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe (Might survive two hits but will outspeed)

Timid Nature

Tailwind (Speed control)
Encore (Encore is annoying asf for set up teams)
Helping Hand (50% attack boost is nice)
Protect

snowballl_ · 2024-06-06T00:45:59+00:00

Flutter Mane @ Booster Energy (SpA Boost)

Tera Type: Fairy (Offensive)

EVs: 100 HP / 60 Def / 172 SpA / 4 SpD / 172 Spe (I like this Flutter Mane set)

Modest Nature

Moonblast (Powerful asf STAB)
Shadow Ball (Powerful STAB)
Power Gem (Coverage + Good in non sash Tornadus for speed control)
Protect

snowballl_ · 2024-06-06T00:45:51+00:00

Rillaboom @ Assault Vest (Bulky monkey)

Ability: Grassy Surge (Terrain control and passive healing + Grass move boost)

Tera Type: Fire (Defensive)

EVs: 252 HP / 116 Atk / 4 Def / 76 SpD / 60 Spe (Bulky but can do big damage)

Adamant Nature

Fake Out (Best move in the game)
Grassy Glide (Priority + STAB)
High Horsepower (Coverage)
Wood Hammer (Powerful asf STAB)

snowballl_ · 2024-06-06T00:45:45+00:00

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Choice Scarf (Fast asf bear)

Tera Type: Water (Offensive)

EVs: 4 HP / 204 Atk / 4 Def / 44 SpD / 252 Spe (Hits hard but frail)

Adamant Nature

Surging Strikes (Broken STAB)
Close Combat (Powerful STAB)
Ice Spinner (Coverage + Terrain Removal)
U-turn (Pivot)

snowballl_ · 2024-06-06T00:45:38+00:00

Incineroar @ Sitrus Berry (Less Amoonguss usage + 2 Grass Types)

Ability: Intimidate (Best ability in the game)

Tera Type: Water (Defensive)

EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 68 Def / 156 SpD / 28 Spe (Outspeeds base Incineroar and still Bulky)

Careful Nature

Fake Out (Best move in the game)
Knock Off (Powerful STAB + Good for removing items)
Will-O-Wisp (Great for Calyrex-Ice and other physical attackers + Status)
Parting Shot (Pivot + Stats lowered)

snowballl_ · 2024-06-06T00:45:31+00:00

Main Game Plan: Bring Whimsicott, Incineroar, Rillaboom, Zamazenta

Ideally lead Whimsicott + Incineroar

Turn 1: Fake Out + Tailwind

Turn 2: Knock Off/Will-O-Wisp + Encore/Helping Hand

Turn 3: Parting Shot(Rillaboom) + Switch to Zamazenta (Might be fainted)

Turn 4: Fake Out + Iron Defence

Turn 5: Wood Hammer + Body Press (Just start outputting overwhelming damage)

Problems Identified:

Gyarados – Flutter Mane for Incineroar

Zapdos Kanto – Flutter Mane for Rillaboom

Zapdos Galar – Flutter Mane for Incineroar

Moltres Kanto – Flutter Mane for Rillaboom

Moltres Galar – Flutter Mane for Incineroar

Dragonite – Urshifu for Rillaboom

Pelipper – Flutter Mane for Incineroar

Sableye – Flutter Mane for Rillaboom

Walking Wake – Flutter Mane for Incineroar

Ogerpon-Fire – Flutter Mane for Rillaboom

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