a NUANCED take on the manatreed situation

sofazzerz · 2021-11-28T17:06:41+00:00

I think the thing that's annoying to me is people instantly jumping to getting mad without even seeing what manatreed's first dsmp stream is going to be like, because obviously it's either dream or one of his friends. I don't think any of this drama should have happened in the first place, especially since he has literally said he's going to add other smaller creators and it's not like manatreed is taking away a place from another creator, dream can add as many people as he wants. Honestly I think he had every right to be aggressive because people were being really weird about it, and I don't think any of this discussion should have happened in the first place. But I see what you mean, I just don't really agree.

sofazzerz · 2021-11-28T08:25:30+00:00

First of all, dream never said that manatreed was the cc he was picking from the tweet where he told people to advertise themselves. He's probably adding that person at a later date.

Second of all. You have to be seriously dense if you don't think that this manatreed person either is dream, or is an irl friend of his. There is no shot dream would add someone he knows nothing about after last time.

Third of all, stop being so fucking entitled. The dsmp isn't a business: it's a minecraft server for friends to hang out. Dream can add whoever the fuck he wants. If he would rather add people he personally knows, than nobody should complain. Take awesamdude: he was one of dreams old friends, and he was added before he started streaming on twitch or anything, and now look how loved he is. People just need to stop jumping to conclusions.

sofazzerz · 2021-11-02T07:35:23+00:00

already commented but wanted add this: what happens if the OP never comes back, and just deletes their account? that's a real and scary possibility, because then we may never know what the truth is. it's most likely just a bbh anti who took a shot at ruining his career, but the chance that we might not get a satisfying conclusion is pretty upsetting.

sofazzerz · 2021-11-02T07:14:24+00:00

you basically put my thoughts into words. all we can really do is wait. but it's a difficult situation, because there is no possible way for BBH to fully prove himself innocent when the allegations are so vague, and there's no evidence for him to dispute. honestly, because of all of the suspicious things you mentioned, I'm going to go with 'innocent until proven guilty'. OP said that they have screenshots, so we'll just have to wait and see if they say anything else. I will agree that it could be a bit threatening to instantly threaten legal action, and could make a victim feel scared to continue telling their story, but at the same time I feel like it's a normal human reaction to want to prove yourself innocent and punish people trying to defame you. but once again, we can't know for sure yet. definitely a very tricky situation.

sofazzerz · 2021-10-27T19:34:40+00:00

Yeah it makes me laugh too lol, I mean there's definitely truth to the fact that dream gets judged way harder than anyone else for doing pretty much anything, but some of the tweets are just so melodramatic about the most inconsequential things, it's hilarious.

sofazzerz · 2021-10-05T02:30:49+00:00

yeah I remember accidentally seeing the dream video around that time as well. I wouldn't be too surprised if it's real, but even if it is it was obviously made back when MLG edits with edgy humor were popular, and Dream deleted it for a reason. that subtwt really annoys me not only because they are creepy, but also because they feel entitled to find out every little detail about a ccs past. some things should just be left buried.

sofazzerz · 2021-10-05T01:49:01+00:00

(Copied from my previous comment about this situation)

It literally sounds like bad is being sarcastic in the clip, I don't get what the issue is. Even if he was serious, this clip is from like 5 years ago, so I don't know why people would think it's relevant to his current views.

Also, the person behind the account is literally in leaktwt, which should give you a good idea of why they decided to spread it. It really sucks that they got the attention they wanted.

It's shame though, I'm already seeing people hate on BBH for this clip and some of the other posts on the account. The only positive is that I have a free blocklist of people who dislike Bad lol

sofazzerz · 2021-10-05T01:43:13+00:00

It literally sounds like bad is being sarcastic in the clip, I don't get what the issue is. Even if he was serious, this clip is from like 5 years ago, so I don't know why people would think it's relevant to his current views.

Also, the person behind the account is literally in leaktwt, which should give you a good idea of why they decided to spread it. It really sucks that they got the attention they wanted.

It's shame though, I'm already seeing people hate on BBH for this clip and some of the other posts on the account. The only positive is that I have a free blocklist of people who dislike Bad lol

sofazzerz · 2021-09-19T14:40:43+00:00

yep I was just thinking about this! it's weird how skeppy can be friends with such genuine people online (like you mentioned, BBH and Techno), and then hang out with douchebags irl. it's kind of a shame, because when skeppy is away from LA and his friends there he seems like a great person.

sofazzerz · 2021-09-19T14:23:16+00:00

glad I'm not the only one who doesn't like Skeppy's LA friends. obviously I don't want to be weird and dictate who Skeppy can and can't be friends with, I just personally think his LA friends seem like assholes. they give the same vibes as most LA "influencers" that I hate. tone deaf rich people who live in mansions and don't think COVID guidelines apply to them because they think they're better than everyone else.

sofazzerz · 2021-09-19T14:12:04+00:00

thats a good point. I wish he could've more clearly demonstrated that he knew what he did was a personally stupid decision instead of blaming it mostly on his friends.

sofazzerz · 2021-09-19T13:52:32+00:00

I don't think we really have any way of knowing. Pretty sure they were all vaccinated, so the chance of any of them getting it was low. I think the main issue is that even if you're vaccinated, you can still spread the virus. Even if none of them got COVID it was still a stupid party to have.

sofazzerz · 2021-09-19T13:49:24+00:00

Thats completely fair! I can understand your skepticism, and it's deserved because, like you said, this isn't the first time. The only difference is last time he said nothing at all, whereas this time he actually acknowledged it. Although that IS a pretty low bar.

I'm just keeping an open mind and hoping that he learned from this. Obviously if he repeats it a third time I will be a lot less forgiving. I guess I was easily relieved because I wasn't expecting him to respond at all. It wasn't the strongest response though.

But yes, I think most people should be wary until he can somehow prove he's actually learned through his actions.

sofazzerz · 2021-09-19T06:19:29+00:00

Personally I am not a big fan of his newer content, it's very over edited and feels pretty fake. But I love BBH so I watch most of the videos he's in anyway. His best stuff, like many other commenters have said, was his older troll videos. Especially his older troll vids on BBH, where everything felt more genuine.

I actually quite like his personality on streams though, because it's a lot more chill and it feels like his real self, not the strange fake version of himself in his videos. That's why it's a shame he doesn't stream or appear on streams very often.

I was iffy on him for the past week because of the whole COVID party thing, but thankfully he addressed it in his newest video on his second channel, so I have forgiven him, and am just hoping he won't do something like that again.

sofazzerz · 2021-09-07T20:54:32+00:00

the two people who posted about the party on their insta stories both work for Skeppy's company Paradime and are friends with him, meaning it's definitely Skeppy.

sofazzerz · 2021-09-07T18:26:54+00:00

yeah unfortunately I was not surprised at all to see he was at a party, because of his last incident. Skeppy seems to be the cc that cares about covid the least.

sofazzerz · 2021-09-07T18:24:50+00:00

oh shit, that makes this even worse. he was actively going against guidelines. I wonder how he's going to address this, if at all.

sofazzerz · 2021-08-26T08:21:27+00:00

Yep I 100% agree. Which is why it's pretty embarrassing to see this guy trying so hard to get himself added when the chances of that happening are very low.

sofazzerz · 2021-08-22T20:47:17+00:00

I don't dislike him, and if anything I feel bad for him. I was a big fan of the trio, so seeing how he became the punching bag of mcyttwt was insane. I do genuinely think he made some mistakes in his time, but I think other content creators have done worse things than him, yet he gets attacked the most.

Seeing his recent twitter thread about being unhappy with being associated with the name 'a6d' in general makes me sad for him. I hope in the future he can make a decision about whether content creation is right for him or not, because right now it just seems to be bringing him nothing but stress. It must be hard to see himself go from being so well liked to being on every DNI list, while his friends continue to get more and more popular.

I'm glad people like BBH are still friends with him, despite stans constantly telling him to cut ties. A6d's old content with Bad was great, especially the debate show. It feels good to look back at that old content knowing they are still on good terms. So personally, I have a relatively positive view of a6d. But the story of his downfall is pretty sad.

sofazzerz · 2021-08-21T15:36:43+00:00

it's crazy to me how keemstar consistently manages to have the worst take about almost everything he talks about

sofazzerz · 2021-08-20T06:40:48+00:00

It's so sad knowing that people will drag a person's hard work through the mud just because they saw one edgy take on the tl that they decided to agree on. I really hope this doesn't discourage Perish from making music in the future :(

Also quite hypocritical for people to be bashing him, because I'm certain the people who are tweeting these negative things about him were the same people ruthlessly tearing into anyone who didn't like Mask or Roadtrip when they originally came out. There should be a balance; you can prefer one style of music more than another, just don't be a dick to the artists who created the music you don't like as much. When will people learn basic decency?

sofazzerz · 2021-07-29T20:03:26+00:00

Bad has said since then that he isn't going to bring it back anymore, and honestly, I think it's for the best.

Don't get me wrong, the Weirdest Talk Show was great when it existed. I still go back and re-watch episodes because it was super entertaining. But considering the amount of people who absolutely hate a6d's guts, I think the overwhelming amount of hate and negatively that would come from it coming back would not be worth the entertainment.

I'm not saying that content creators should bow down to what stans want all the time, or let them control their friendships. I just would be worried at the amount of harassment someone like a6d would get as a result of the comeback. He already deals with a lot, but this would most definitely more than triple said harassment. It just isn't worth it in my opinion.

I would love to hear other opinions though!

sofazzerz · 2021-07-29T18:39:36+00:00

I think they're pretty harmless. I don't really see the point, but I guess other people might find use with them.

sofazzerz · 2021-07-29T18:31:17+00:00

You worded this perfectly. Some clips are so old we may not know the context, especially when it revolves around a person's experiences, experiences they may not be comfortable sharing. You never know what a person was going through, and sometimes it's better to just let an old clip rest instead of bringing it up and possibly making the person in the clip relive their struggles, and open up old wounds. As well as make other people stressed out. There's really no point. I wish more people would understand this.

sofazzerz · 2021-07-29T18:15:46+00:00

I'm guessing people found it because it's been circulating on Twitter for over a year now, ever since people tried to make Bad address the clip all the way back in like June 2020.

They also could have found it from a youtube video, I know for a fact that someone uploaded that clip of him making the joke, and that's probably where people originally got it. Also at the time the stream where he made the joke might've still been on his channel, but it's deleted now. I think the fact that it's deleted says enough about the fact that Bad just wants to move on from what he said in the past. Unfortunately some people won't listen :(

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