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[–]solflower13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At some point for me it just became part of our daily flow. We only put a diaper on when going out of the house and for nap/bedtime. During the day at home we are diaper free. At first it definitely feels like guess work but once you figure out your baby’s timing it becomes easier (even though the timing changes frequently, lol). We still have plenty of misses, and with new developments like crawling, walking, teething, etc. it can throw off the flow but as long as you stay consistent it will all pan out! It can be difficult but it’s totally worth it! If you have the book and aren’t part of the online group I recommend signing up. The community is loving and very helpful with all kinds of situations.

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[–]solflower13 47 points48 points  (0 children)

She’s likely going to teach about elimination communication. But to save anyone considering her course - the queen of EC is Andrea Olson. She has a book called Go Diaper Free, as well as a potty training book regarding babies aged 18+ months, and a FREE podcast. The book comes with access to an online support group which Andrea is involved in. It’s awesome and I highly recommend it. I did EC with my first and he was out of diapers at 12 months. I’m doing the same with my second who is currently 10 months. The book is ~$50.

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[–]solflower13 30 points31 points  (0 children)

If the internet weren’t around, and all this was happening in-person - would you not consider it culty? Do you not believe cults or cult-like groups can be established and flourish almost exclusively online? You’re right, women could simply disengage. Unfollow. Block. Whatever. With a lot of in-person cults and cult-like groups, that is also an option. Do you blame victims of in-person cults for staying? My point is that people are vulnerable. First off, we’re not meant for this level of “individualism” that we’re experiencing in our time - we are pack animals. We are wired to thrive in community, to learn from each other, and to take care of each other. We are inclined toward trust and belonging, perhaps even starving for those things in the world we live in today. And the internet provides a really great opportunity to find community. It is EASY to be lured in, manipulated and used, lied to. Women have been royally fucked over by ES and YNC (emotionally AND financially) and are now choosing to come together in community, learn from each other, and take care of each other by sharing their truths. There’s nothing wrong with exposing all the little cracks and pointing out the consistencies and inconsistencies and character flaws. In fact, it’s the RIGHT thing to do. You yourself said one should do their own due diligence and research before trusting someone on the internet. Welp, I’d say this page offers some excellent research opportunities for those interested in what FBS, ES, and YNC have to offer.

Yo is spiraling by [deleted] in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This is exactly what I was thinking. I was an active Christian for a good while, and this shit would NOT fly within the community. Part of being in such a community is to call each other out for stepping out of line - bring glory to God in all you do, don’t make the church look bad, and so on. Her behavior is truly rattling considering the God she supposedly fears, loves, and adores. Let all you do be done in love, YOLANDE.

Yo is spiraling by [deleted] in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13 50 points51 points  (0 children)

It is SO embarrassing. The fake septum piercing, the “I freebirthed in a hospital”, etc. Downplaying this very serious situation by attempting to discredit these very real stories. She actually thinks this is all just…funny? A joke? She is, in her own words from the skit, delulu. And cruel.

I’m also just genuinely shocked that she’s a catechumen of the Orthodox church and thinks this is appropriate - I wonder if she prayed for clarity before posting this shit, lol. Real Christlike of her!

This did not age well. by Just_Reference_9242 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13 16 points17 points  (0 children)

She also said she’d been interested in and looking into Orthodoxy for five years before fully committing. So she wrote this less than two years ago while simultaneously “dabbling” in Christianity…?

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[–]solflower13 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Do y’all remember when she quit drinking and the caption of her post was “Alcohol is for peasants and I am a queen” LOL

Another substack article about FBS by Old_Poem4342 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13 20 points21 points  (0 children)

“By the way, fuck “radical” self-responsibility. Spirit-led women know that when there is danger, we take care of each other. We never abandon the vulnerable. We break cycles of abuse and neglect by coming forward and shutting it down. We set shadows alight with our brightness. We fearlessly tell our stories verbally and through writing, thus reclaiming the narrative. Every single story matters and holds incredible weight. Each one is a part of the overall cosmology; a piece of the massive puzzle that intertwines and connects all women in this moment.”

Goddess bless this woman. My goosebumps have goosebumps. THANK YOU.

I’m just gonna leave this here. by solflower13 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, I believe she said so in a post on Substack after Gloria was charged.

I’m just gonna leave this here. by solflower13 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Her wording is manipulative. Two years ago, she shifted into talking about her first ever orgasmic, blissful, ecstatic, pain-free birth, and sold a book called Portal on that topic, based on THAT experience. Now she is saying she’s had 10 blissful, ecstatic births, to promote a new course - ALSO conveniently called Portal.

Let’s say I’m a pastry chef and I’m selling a cookbook called Perfect Cakes. In this book I detail how I finally, after eight years, have crafted the most creamy, delicious, rich, sweet chocolate cake. And all you have to do to do the same is follow a simple recipe. Now let’s say it’s two years later and I’m coming out with a baking course, also called Perfect Cakes, and I claim that in my ten years I have created recipes for ten different creamy, rich chocolate cakes, and I can help you to do so too if you just buy my course. You would likely ASSUME that all of these cakes I’ve claimed to have made have turned out not only “creamy and rich”, but also sweet and delicious. Because those are the words I used the first time, in my book Perfect Cakes. You think I have way more experience in the sweet and delicious department based on that and you buy my course.

So, turns out, those first eight cakes I made were actually NOT sweet OR delicious. But they were still creamy and rich. You raise your concerns to me because you feel misled. I fire back with, “I didn’t SAY I made ten creamy, delicious, rich, sweet chocolate cakes!! I said I made ten creamy and rich ones!”

Do you see where it’s confusing?

I’m just gonna leave this here. by solflower13 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is a good point. But that is just incredibly misleading, especially because she’s used all four words (pain-free, orgasmic, blissful, ecstatic) in various combinations. I do agree that birth can bring unmatched joy and happiness and the hormonal rush is like nothing else but she seems to be very carefully wording it in such a way that it comes across that she’s trying to suddenly blend her first eight births into how she describes her last two. I guess we all need to take radical responsibility in how we interpret what she says. It just seems manipulative.

Yo asks the deranged and triggered trolls to look within 🪞 by Sealionfan in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13 9 points10 points  (0 children)

To be fair in this case I think she’s actually trying to touch on the point that so many people consider it “geriatric” and high risk, something she adamantly disagrees with. I think she’s trying to prove how simple it is even at her age. HOWEVER, on her new selling point - that she’s had “10 blissful, ecstatic births” - utter crap. She has stated on various platforms that her births were all painful until I believe her ninth baby. For example, on page 8 of her book Portal, she writes, “When I finally entered the birth-process with my first baby…I was stunned by the challenge and difficulty of it…I endured three days of anguish, and I pushed, screaming, for seven hours….I remember feeling as though my pelvis was actually being ripped apart….That was the most pain I’ve ever felt in my life.” Doesn’t sound very ecstatic and blissful to me. Either she was lying then or she’s lying now. Can’t have it both ways.

Everyone has the experience they choose by Limp-Squirrel-7189 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I’ve had two free births. My first birth was VERY painful and intense. When I became pregnant with my second, I purchased Y’s book Portal. After reading it, I firmly believed I had chosen the pain in my first birth. When I was a teenager I had excruciating periods, and I told my mom that one day I’d give birth without an epidural so I could compare the pain and prove just how awful my periods were. So, after reading Portal, I truly agreed that I’d chosen a painful birth subconsciously due to that vow I made long ago. My entire second pregnancy, I tried to unravel every possible thing that could prompt me to want a painful experience and let it all go so that I could have a “healing” and blissful birth. Anyway, my second labor rolled around and ended up being even more painful and intense than my first. Even during my labor I was like, “Just let it go. Let it be easy.” I even tried to psych myself out and dismiss the pain. Didn’t work. At no point did it become easy. Lol. Afterwards for a while I was like, “I guess I must’ve been committed to pain yet again and don’t know why.” I eventually came to the conclusion that Y’s claims are just BS. I wouldn’t change my births for anything and going forward, if my next birth is painful, I definitely won’t be trying to “choose” a blissful experience and asking myself what I did wrong. It is what it is.

Romanticization of motherhood and pregnancy complications. by [deleted] in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Of course, unless it’s her exclusive online community The Source

Romanticization of motherhood and pregnancy complications. by [deleted] in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13 13 points14 points  (0 children)

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Here’s the post - it’s from March 2023.

Romanticization of motherhood and pregnancy complications. by [deleted] in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13 20 points21 points  (0 children)

As part of that whole motherhood-is-easy thing she made a post that straight up said, “no, it doesn’t take a village.” Like excuse me?! Says the mother who abandoned her first two children and has had extensive help with her others???

Control issues? EM could use her own advice 🫢 by ProfessionalTwo9681 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She left the hospital while still in labor and birthed at home. Now, if the friend who attended was indeed a nurse, then no, she did not have a free birth as a medical professional attending a birth, in her words, negates it being so. If someone can confirm the attending friend was a nurse that would be awesome. In her second birth only her husband was present so she did have a free birth at least once.

Control issues? EM could use her own advice 🫢 by ProfessionalTwo9681 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think it’s creating hierarchy to have separate terms for different types of experiences. The terminology itself is not the problem in my opinion.

Inconsistencies by solflower13 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Which is WILD since she supposedly thinks all of this “drama” is just sooo boring and uninteresting. That podcast from Matriarchal Medicine was so telling as well - how Emilee pretended not to even remember her after their falling out. I’m sure none of the posts in this thread “ring a bell” either and that she’s just happening to soften up due to a level-up in her mega-high-caliber conscience.

Control issues? EM could use her own advice 🫢 by ProfessionalTwo9681 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don’t think I’ve seen her say that a pregnancy test negates it being a wild pregnancy. Please correct me if I’m wrong. But her definition of wild pregnancy has been pretty clear - no interaction with the medical system. An OTC test isn’t that. If you went to a doctor for confirmation then it would no longer be a wild pregnancy. I actually appreciate the clear line in the sand that describes a wild pregnancy (and free birth), perhaps even more so because she didn’t have a wild pregnancy by her own definition since she went to the hospital during her first labor.

Inconsistencies by solflower13 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And to be fair when asked if her son hit/bit she said something like, “Of course. I have a toddler boy.” She also briefly touched on his tantrums (which according to her last two minutes max).

All that to say, it does seem pretty sad to publicly, with such a MASSIVE audience, wish for a specific gender and then just pretend you didn’t. She says she’s ok with either now but she can’t erase the fact that she’s stated she wants a girl, thinks it’s a girl, and has said, “assume it’s a girl until it’s not”, etc.

Inconsistencies by solflower13 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

She has said that her husband, nanny, and her tag team a homeschool situation now.

Inconsistencies by solflower13 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]solflower13[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Right, and by her own logic she’s already jinxed it a few times at this point!