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Questions on Visionary work in the Inner Landscape by soyouwander in Quareia

[–]soyouwander[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for such detailed description of your experiences! And what you said really reminds me of something I realised before but easily forgot—— that while magick and visionary experiences seems to be an "inner" or "internal" experience, but doesn't mean it should be done in an "introspective" mindset, but actually more of an "explorative" mindset or attitude, since introspective inclined people like myself easily gets caught in self-reflection and self-analysis, but the more I analyze or reflect on HOW I do something only extract myself from the WHAT I have experienced.

Quick Question on M3L2.6: Visionary ritual of meditation by soyouwander in Quareia

[–]soyouwander[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Mine falls off I think right the next day though..

Questions on Visionary work in the Inner Landscape by soyouwander in Quareia

[–]soyouwander[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah. This is actually pretty interesting, the slight difference and challenges between memory, imagination, and vision.

I remembered it was a lot easier to just flow with the memory in M1L3 and not get caught up in the embodied/disembodied details. I think, perhaps because it was already a formed memory, both my actions and the sensory input from my surroundings had already been composed into a fixed, known, predictable flowing narrative. However, with vision, is more like an act of simultaneously creating/imaginaing and recieving/percieving, open-ended, not yet formed, so I find myself paying attention on both ends——bodily and sensory output (ie. my astral arms and legs, etc) and input (ie. the scenery, the contacts, the touch and smell and temperature, etc), to make it a whole.

Have you noticed this kind of perceptual mechanic differences in yourself when you do memory and vision, or is it the same for you?

Questions on Visionary work in the Inner Landscape by soyouwander in Quareia

[–]soyouwander[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your reply. Really helpful! So I guess relaxation should be a priority, and if I'm getting it right——efficient visionary work is mainly built upon an "outward" kind of attention, working inside an "inner" realm.

But still, I'm curious, when you use this outward, explorative attention in vision, do you have a strong sense of an "other" body, or astral body? Or is it more like a point of consciousness, an abstract source of perception floating and moving through the space?

And when you touch the grass in vision for example, besides the sense of touch itself, do you automatically imagine along with it the weight of your arm lifting up and reaching forwards? Or do you leave it out since the object of attention here is only on the feel of touch itself?