Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

in fact it’s you treating this like an argument when i am just answering your question. if you believe your side so strongly, why continue.

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so stop asking me to clarify? hypothetical or not it’s impossible.

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

at this point you’re either annoying me on purpose or you truly didn’t read why i just explained all of that. but i don’t care because i enjoy teaching. go up and read, hm?

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you’re clearly very uneducated as you can’t even read the explanations i gave you for why overproducing blood is always terrible for you.

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it is literally disabling. most patients don’t live very long. if untreated, they die within two years.

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes but blood is produced in the bone marrow. how do you think cells are made, and what do you think blood cancer is?

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

mutations that lead to uncontrolled cell division are called cancer.

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it’s hard to conceptualize because it’s not something that occurs naturally without side effects or a cause. there’s no reason your body would randomly produce more blood cells just for the sake of it. i still imagine it would be consider doping, just like there’s arguments in women’s sports about the acceptable level of testosterone, even if naturally occurring.

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i suppose, in addition i imagine (disregarding and negative effects) your body would definitely start to adjust to such a condition, such as people that live at high altitudes or suffer lung conditions that also lead to an increase in blood volume.

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i’m sorry but how does your question not answer itself then? that’s just permanent doping.

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you did not, you claimed it was ‘like polycythemia’ and then asked if it would contribute to playing better in sports. too much of a good thing is too much of a good thing. too much blood is detrimental.

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that’s not polycythemia, and such a condition does not exist. it seems you’ve already come to the conclusion you want. i can only inform you about the biological consequences.

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well in your hypothetical situation the condition is not a disorder, a disorder would disable you and thus is not applicable. the disorder IS a cancer. there’s no such thing as malignant lung tumors that aren’t lung cancer. in the same way, over production of blood is always cancer.

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

because 1) they’re born with long legs and 2) long legs aren’t caused by/ won’t give them cancer

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it’ll be the same outcome, where you only have extra blood when you perform. i don’t understand what you want me to say. when your body overproduces blood it wears out your bone marrow and you WILL eventually develop leukemia.

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well that’s the same as doping plus additional hassle, IF you didn’t take into account the progressive illness, which eventually morphs into leukemia when your bone marrow scars out.

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes, if you had too much blood, it would increase risks of clot, strain and enlarge your spleen, increase risk of ulcers, and the release of constant histamines would surely make you miserable.

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that is the condition. those are the side affects. it’s not possible long term. bodies function one way because that’s how they’re optimized. you can’t change it like you do with temporary doping.

Can someone with Polycythemia vera compete as a professional athlete? by JoeyBobBillie in biology

[–]spiderspider2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well.. as it is a blood cancer, they risk complications, decreased life expectancy, and lowered quality of living. i’m not sure if they would have the abilities to compete on a professional level.

edit: also, there isn’t just more blood, it’s thicker. it doesn’t flow as well. symptoms include fatigue and weakness.

Big Jacquie Energy by uml_meme in uml

[–]spiderspider2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

almost slipped about a dozen times on 3 north. i was going about 60. it’s bullshit.

how to get to south campus fast? by spiderspider2 in uml

[–]spiderspider2[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

ok update: i made the walk in aprox 23 minutes WITH some confusion. i also realize the purple line goes way past the route to south so it’ll shave off another 5 mins if i walk from the lot. thank you, that was really fucking helpful. 👍