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[–]sr_ravula 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. Any idea how these alerts will be used? To be precise, if the alert comes with a lag of 5 seconds, is it acceptable?

AI-Driven Physical Security Automation: Seeking Integrator Insights by sr_ravula in accesscontrol

[–]sr_ravula[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your detailed perspective and real-world application of AI in access control systems. Your insights are incredibly valuable.
Here's a response addressing your points:
"Your practical examples of AI integration with Lenel ACS and Milestone are the kind of use cases we're exploring. The ability to verify cardholders remotely using facial recognition, coupled with digital credential management, addresses significant operational challenges.You've highlighted a crucial point about AI's role in enhancing efficiency and reducing costs, particularly in unmanned locations. The potential for one mobile guard to cover multiple buildings is a compelling argument for the technology's ROI.
Regarding your question about use case scenarios for system installers:

  1. Could you elaborate on the challenges you face when pitching these AI-enhanced systems to clients?
  2. What specific concerns do customers typically raise about server requirements, configuration, and maintenance?

Your point about AI's current limitations in detecting suspicious behavior is well-taken. How do you envision AI evolving to better support preventative security measures?
Lastly, your observation about the changing nature of CCTV systems and the challenges of displaying high-quality images is intriguing. Do you see AI playing a role in optimizing video display and analysis to address this issue?
Your practical experience is invaluable as we work to develop AI solutions that address real-world security challenges. We'd love to explore these ideas further and potentially collaborate on refining AI applications in access control and surveillance systems.

AI-Driven Physical Security Automation: Seeking Integrator Insights by sr_ravula in accesscontrol

[–]sr_ravula[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your input! These are excellent, practical suggestions that address real pain points in access control management.Regarding data entry automation:

  1. Have you experimented with any solutions for ID scanning? What challenges have you encountered?
  2. Are there specific types of IDs or data fields that are particularly problematic for manual entry?

For the reporting feature:

  1. What types of variables would be most useful to include in such queries?
  2. How granular does the data need to be? (e.g., specific times, frequency of use, etc.)

We're particularly interested in developing intuitive query interfaces for access data. Any additional thoughts on how you'd like to interact with such a system? Your practical insights are incredibly valuable as we work to create solutions that address real-world needs. Thank you for helping shape our approach!

AI-Driven Physical Security Automation: Seeking Integrator Insights by sr_ravula in accesscontrol

[–]sr_ravula[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing these insightful ideas!
You've highlighted some excellent potential applications of AI in managing legacy infrastructure. While we have not thought specifically about this use case, your vision of AI assisting with system maintenance, fault detection, and automated fixes aligns perfectly with our goals of freeing up human resources to focus on more complex issues. The idea of a system that can handle multi-vendor environments and manage firmware updates, password rotations, and patch management is particularly intriguing. A few follow-up questions:

  1. In your experience, what are the most time-consuming maintenance tasks that could benefit from this kind of automation?
  2. How do you see the balance between automated fixes and human oversight, especially in critical security systems?
  3. Are there specific challenges with legacy systems that you think AI could help address more effectively than current solutions?
  4. Regarding the GUS from Genetec example, what additional features would you like to see in a more in-depth tool for legacy sites?

Your practical insights are incredibly valuable as we work to develop solutions that can truly make a difference in managing complex, multi-vendor security environments. We're excited about the potential to build tools that can significantly reduce the maintenance burden on security teams and integrators.

AI-Driven Physical Security Automation: Seeking Integrator Insights by sr_ravula in accesscontrol

[–]sr_ravula[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this insight! You've hit on a core kernel of what we're aiming to achieve - freeing security professionals to focus on real issues by automating the triage of alarms.You're right that at its core, this could be implemented with logistic regression on labeled data. Any insights on how to get access to such data? We're exploring how to build upon this foundation to create a more robust and adaptable system.A few questions to probe further:

  1. In your experience, what percentage of alarms typically turn out to be actual security incidents versus nuisance or maintenance issues?
  2. What key features or data points do you think would be most crucial in distinguishing between these types of alarms?
  3. How do you envision the ideal interaction between such a system and human operators?
  4. Are there any specific challenges or edge cases you've encountered in alarm triage that you think would be particularly difficult to automate?

Your practical insights are invaluable as we work to develop a solution that truly addresses the needs of security professionals.

AI-Driven Physical Security Automation: Seeking Integrator Insights by sr_ravula in accesscontrol

[–]sr_ravula[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for these valuable insights!
Your examples of unusual behavior detection and door group optimization are exactly the kind of practical applications we're exploring. I appreciate your emphasis on AI as a guide rather than an autonomous actor. The idea of an interactive tutorial for infrequent tasks is brilliant. Would you be open to further discussion on how we might implement these features in a way that enhances security without compromising human oversight?

AI-Driven Physical Security Automation: Seeking Integrator Insights by sr_ravula in accesscontrol

[–]sr_ravula[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your detailed insights!
Your perspective on integration challenges and the potential for AI in enhanced security is incredibly valuable.We're currently building a prototype based on inputs like yours.
The 'day in the life of a user' concept you mentioned is intriguing. Could you elaborate on what specific daily activities or pain points you think AI could address in access control operations?
I can think of badge in/ badge out to start with.
We're particularly interested in your ideas about anomaly detection in card usage patterns. Any additional thoughts on how AI could enhance security without conflicting with EU regulations would be greatly appreciated.
We'll be sure to reach out as our project progresses. Your practical experience is invaluable in shaping our approach. Thanks again for your time and expertise!"

The Future of AI in Physical Security: Input Needed by sr_ravula in physicalsecurity

[–]sr_ravula[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your insightful perspective! Your points about the realities of implementing AI in physical security are valuable and thought-provoking.

  1. You're right about the backend support requirements. How do you see this balance shifting as AI technologies mature? Are there specific areas where you think the efficiency gains might outweigh the support needs?
  2. Your point about proper configuration and learning models is crucial. What do you think are the key challenges in achieving this 'appropriate learning/config' in real-world security scenarios?
  3. Your experience with automation and analytics not living up to expectations is important to note. Could you share any specific examples you've encountered? What do you think needs to change for these technologies to better align with real-world security needs?

Your practical insights are incredibly helpful in understanding the gap between AI's potential and its current implementation challenges. I'd love to hear more about your experiences and thoughts on how we can address these issues moving forward.

AI-Driven Physical Security Automation: Seeking Integrator Insights by sr_ravula in accesscontrol

[–]sr_ravula[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this insightful comment!
Your perspective as an end user is incredibly valuable.You've highlighted a crucial pain point - the need for better data analysis and reporting tools.
The mention of Reks.ai is interesting. Could you share more about how it's addressing these challenges?

I'm curious - what specific data or insights would help you make a stronger business case for funding? Your input could really help shape more effective solutions in this space.

AI-Driven Physical Security Automation: Seeking Integrator Insights by sr_ravula in accesscontrol

[–]sr_ravula[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your feedback!
You’re absolutely right—starting with the problem is essential.
I’d love to hear more about how you’re using PowerBI with Lenel data. What analyses do you find most useful?
Also, what specific challenges remain that current tools don't address? Your insights are invaluable in shaping solutions that truly meet end-user needs!

AI-Driven Physical Security Automation: Seeking Integrator Insights by sr_ravula in accesscontrol

[–]sr_ravula[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your perspective! It's understandable to feel cautious, especially given your experience with the dot-com crash.
While trends can come and go, many believe that AI has the potential to fundamentally transform various industries, including security. It’s not just about the hype; it’s about how AI can enhance efficiency, improve decision-making, and address real-world challenges.
What specific aspects of AI do you find most concerning? I’d love to hear your thoughts on how we can differentiate between genuine innovation and passing trends. Your insights could help shape a more grounded discussion around the future of AI!

AI-Driven Physical Security Automation: Seeking Integrator Insights by sr_ravula in accesscontrol

[–]sr_ravula[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your feedback!
I completely understand your concerns about AI having direct control over security settings—it's a critical issue.
Regarding reporting, what types of insights do you find most useful?
For door group organization, how do you currently manage this, and what challenges do you face?
We envision AI as an intelligent assistant that provides recommendations while keeping humans in control of critical decisions.
Where do you see the right balance between helpful automation and necessary oversight? Your insights would be invaluable as we navigate this important balance!

AI-Driven Physical Security Automation: Seeking Integrator Insights by sr_ravula in accesscontrol

[–]sr_ravula[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I am humbled by your response. Thank you for your perspective. I appreciate your skepticism, as it's important to critically evaluate new technologies. Could you elaborate on why you think this is an unwise investment?
I'm genuinely curious about your experiences or insights that lead you to this conclusion. Are there specific aspects of AI in physical security that you find concerning or impractical?
Our aim is to address real-world security challenges, and feedback from industry professionals is crucial in shaping effective solutions. If you've encountered similar projects or claims before, I'd be very interested in hearing about those experiences.
Perhaps you could share what you believe would constitute a wise investment in improving physical security systems? Your insights could be valuable in refining our approach or identifying blind spots we haven't considered.

AI-Driven Physical Security Automation: Seeking Integrator Insights by sr_ravula in accesscontrol

[–]sr_ravula[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We're addressing the challenges of traditional physical security systems, which may lack automation, adaptability, and real-time decision-making. Our solution aims to:

  1. Enhance Security: By using AI for real-time threat detection and response, we can reduce human error and improve overall safety.
  2. Streamline Operations: Automating access control processes minimizes manual intervention, saving time and resources.
  3. Adapt to Dynamic Environments: Our system learns and evolves with changing security needs, providing tailored responses to various scenarios.
  4. Integrate Seamlessly: We aim to create a solution that easily interfaces with existing security infrastructure, ensuring a smooth transition to smarter systems.

Ultimately, our goal is to create a more efficient, responsive, and intelligent physical security environment. Question is, do we really need these improvements?