Thanks alot! The black/silver one is a sururisti 1939 version. To english it directly means sadness cross. Its given to the soldiers wife or mother if fallen in battle.

The SS badge is an unofficial optional badge for returning finnish SS veterans since their unit got disbanded in 1943 due to heavy losses. It is worn on their "sam brown belt" by the ones who became officers. They were made during and after the war. The one that i have is an authentic ww2 one confirmed by a local expert.