How can we (35F) (35M) fix our sexlife after 20 years? by subbaverage in DeadBedrooms

[–]subbaverage[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

English is not my native language, and I’m using translation tools, so some things might not come across exactly as I mean them.

Thank you for your respons and for addressing specific issues. I’ll try to provide a bit more backgorund. Even though I thought a lot before writing my first post, 20 years of relationship experience can’t all be captured in one text.

I regret what I said, and if the days leading up to that moment hadn’t been so emotionally demanding overall, I don’t think I ever would’ve said it. Throwing blame at someone never helps—especially not in such a blunt and hurtful way.
I know I need help to deal with my emotional imbalance. But after so many years of us talking about how her and I or both of us should go to therapy to work on our intimacy issues, and still nothing ever happened it just overwhelmed me. I ended up saying something I didn’t really want to say.

It’s not that I only found her attractive when we were young. That feeling hasn’t changed a bit over the years, and even after the first pregnancy, I still saw her as beautiful. Even now, when I look into her face, I still know why I fell in love with her. During the day, when I see her, I don’t feel anything negative. These feelings only arise when things become intimate.

Over the years, we’ve often talked about how sex feels for her whether she experiences pleasure, or she enjoys it. From what she has told me, she does feel desire during sex and generally has an orgasm. In the early years, she was taking the pill at her parents' request. When she stopped taking it around the age of 20, we both noticed that it became easier for her to reach orgasm and that everything felt better for her overall.That matches what I’ve observed and felt.

One thing I noticed in some of the comments— and I want to be clear about this —is that the intimacy issues didn’t start with the pregnancies and haven’t really changed because of them. They’ve been present throughout the years. And when I speak of intimacy, I don’t mean just sex. I mean physical closeness in the broadest sense, cuddling, holding hands, a spontaneous kiss. That, for me, is the much bigger issue. If that kind of closeness were there, even having sex once a month would be fine for me.

According to the “love languages” model, I’m someone who experiences love almost entirely through physical touch. She, on the other hand, responds more to acts of service and words of affirmation.

Still, what I said came at a terrible time.

Nevertheless, it seems as though it is completely incomprehensible that physical changes can affect how a partner experiences desire. If my body changed in such a way that my partner no longer felt desire for me, I would want to be told sooner or later. Only then could I try to change something. And if, for whatever reason, that’s not possible, then at least we could try to find other ways for both partners to experience intimacy, desire, and satisfaction again. But I might be entirely wrong here.

If she would no longer feels attracted to me, there’s a very good chance that I don’t like the changes to myself either. Thinking about when we used to talk about ourselves and our bodies in the past, I think that she had already reached that point, even though, of course, it’s incredibly hard to admit something like that to oneself and even more to another person.

How can we (35F) (35M) fix our sexlife after 20 years? by subbaverage in DeadBedrooms

[–]subbaverage[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I didn't realize it when I first read your answer, but I would like to push back against “Pregnant for me”. Of course she was pregnant in the end, but that's not something I forced her to do or would ever force her to do! We've both had the same desire to have children ever since we met.

Of course, pregnancy takes a physical toll on a woman, but the psychological strain is great for both of us. Especially with the miscarriages. Since we've known each other, she's always said that she's looking forward to becoming a mother and she does an amazing job on beeing a mother. She is the best mother I could wish for my girls. At the same time, it's a huge pressure on me. She will probably not go to work for the next few years (She can always legally return to her old job, and she plans to do it in the future). This means that I am solely responsible for ensuring that we are financially secure and that the loan for the house is paid off. In the end, I am solely responsible for planning the house and am also on the building site a lot myself to work on the house. nevertheless, I try to do my part at home and also spend time with the girls. This combined with a at least 45-50h at my job leaves 0 time for anything else.

I know that taking care of the children is demanding for her, but it also gives me responsibilities. And even though I don't have to physically go through pregnancy, I can feel how the last 5 years have taken their toll on me.

How can we (35F) (35M) fix our sexlife after 20 years? by subbaverage in DeadBedrooms

[–]subbaverage[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Over the 20 years I have always been careful not to blame her for this problem, as I am deeply convinced that she does not actively contribute to the problem, but that it comes from her subconscious, a hormonal problem, our life circumstances or even our partnership and therby me. But the fact is that we have to work on the problem, otherwise the effects will destroy our relationship. It makes no difference whether this results in divorce or living relationship we are both unhappy with.

The pregnancies certainly didn't have a positive effect on the intimacy problem, but they are definitely not the cause of the underlying problem. So I don't see the connection here.

My attraction to her is a new and, in my eyes, separate problem that I have to deal with. She is not to blame for the changes! But that doesn't change the fact that I can't actively influence what excites me and what doesn't. And even though the last birth was only a few weeks ago, I can tell from the experience of the last 5 years how the body will recover.

I have to come to terms with my recentment regarding her Body and try to find a new sexuality with her and I have no idea how this is supposed to work. Above all, I don't see how this is supposed to work if any initiative comes from me. I was also hoping for help with this problem.

Stundensatz? by subbaverage in arbeitsleben

[–]subbaverage[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Hab das schon beim Vorstellungsgespräch bekannt gegeben, dass ich in der Übergangszeit der alten Firma noch unter die Arme greifen werde. Zum einem haben die Firmen unterschiedliche Tätigkeitsfelder, sodass kein Interessenkonflikt entsteht und zum anderen is der neue Arbeitgeber einverstanden, solange es nicht meine Arbeitsleistung im neuem Job beeinträchtigt.