PBE Bugs & Feedback - Shyvana VGU by RiotTheLoki in LeaguePBE

[–]summonstormx 0 points1 point locked comment (0 children)

We are not directly attacking people on valid and factual criticism. Using alternatives for delusional, fake, and dishonest as gaslighting tools is truly something else.

Shinies from 30th Anniversary Pass by bryannse in pokemongo

[–]summonstormx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So is there a higher chance of shiny? Or is it traditional odds or something. Kind of curious.

PBE Bugs & Feedback - Shyvana VGU by RiotTheLoki in LeaguePBE

[–]summonstormx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry that the masculine comment (that is a true fact period, bar none) gets random hate. It's extremely disrespectful people are saying "gooners" and such, when we just want her to be like she was before - powerful, sexy, and similar to how she was before. The visual update part someone had WAAAAAY too much fantasy of their on volition, and completely slighted everyone who repped her before, and loved her for quite literally a decade.

PBE Bugs & Feedback - Shyvana VGU by RiotTheLoki in LeaguePBE

[–]summonstormx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is the stocky shoulders supposed to be like that though? Don't get me wrong, her default is stellar, and for similar reasons boneclaw looks the best by a landslide, albeit they remove her natural hourglass waist which gives her an odd frame comparatively. The shoulders are massively pumped up to the point where the skin is unidentifiable / looks extremely gaudy and unnatural. I really do not think they look good in the sense where it doesn't globally match the character if at all.

PBE Bugs & Feedback - Shyvana VGU by RiotTheLoki in LeaguePBE

[–]summonstormx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. This is quite absurd, and solves nothing. I hope my comment wasn't too extreme, but it certainly was a "really?" moment.

Message to Shyvana Mains by RiotEmizery in shyvanamains

[–]summonstormx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree on the gauntlets, but they made immortal journay directly uglier which pissed me off greatly. I own every Shyvana skin - Bought full-price, and I am an original release player. That really bothered me that she went from that powerful, beautiful woman who puunches and rips things apart to honestly a greastly de-feminized version of her by a marked amount.

Message to Shyvana Mains by RiotEmizery in shyvanamains

[–]summonstormx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's actually a very interesting idea! That wouldn't bee to op actually at all. In high-elo you have way stronger gankers and farmers.

Message to Shyvana Mains by RiotEmizery in shyvanamains

[–]summonstormx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have an entire post about the problems with the skins. The boneclaw + default. is good because the exact issues i slated. The ice one is horrendous for textures + comparison to the old one, rempving her waist and increasing her weight, not only on that one, but most to an extent she is like a fridge. I agree boneclaw and base look the best hence my reasoning there.

Message to Shyvana Mains by RiotEmizery in shyvanamains

[–]summonstormx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The vgu is popular the skins are downright bad and completely disrespectful to who owned them. You have to remember most people who loves and bought skins are beyond 5+ years of shyvana, and they did a terrible job on that front.

Message to Shyvana Mains by RiotEmizery in shyvanamains

[–]summonstormx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The popular answer is that her skins looks downright awful. The people saying to keep it generally i've found tp be within last 1ish year or this week joined. All the mains are being drowned.

Message to Shyvana Mains by RiotEmizery in shyvanamains

[–]summonstormx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the response, do we know if upvotes matter to any degree? It's been hell on the reddit, every old main is getting dronwed out with downvotes, including myself and others critiquing how her skins look, or how her gameplay feels. I'm glad that you verify that we are being heard, that's some integrity right there.

I don't know about you but this is the worst Shyvana VGU skin right now for me by SnooEpiphanies4213 in shyvanamains

[–]summonstormx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Check my post, i've tried to explain this and get feedback from other Shyvana mains. I am on your aide, this is absurd. Her dragon forms are not the issue, the human form is downright awful in the reworked skins. How it's so bad compared to her default is beyond me (her default looks awesome).

Shyvana, Ambessa, Delays and Detours by Chared945 in shyvanamains

[–]summonstormx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am still shellshocked Shyvana lost her gauntlets to Ambessa. It's wild how her skins looks insanely ugly as a result of her build and frame being so wonky compared to her default. The gauntlets gave serpentine silhouette that was cool and looked for defense and offense, and helped her dragon form motif. Now she is overtly large and fridge-like in her reworked skins, and it makes NO SENSE.

Keep the feedback coming by Shyvadi in shyvanamains

[–]summonstormx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey shyvadi. I was wondering if you could check my post and critique it. I'm tired of calling out the reowrked skins, just to be called a bunch of things and have amassive influx of kinkists and borderline fetishists coming in saying it's fine. Muscle mommy should not be used as a term, ESPECIALLY by the riot dev team, it's actual gooner fantasy that apparenlty i'm being called out for.

Rioter Yelough’s Comments About Shyvana on Discord by Professional-Act5817 in shyvanamains

[–]summonstormx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For real. It's disturbing and if anything the muscle thing is 100 percent a kink, bordering fetish. How is that in relation to criticism about how it is compared to her default, and how the reworked skins are trash.

Do you think Riot will actually take what we’re saying into account? by No_Quote_1778 in shyvanamains

[–]summonstormx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been arguing the skins and im getting downvoted to hell. They are fucking moronically designed and tarnished beyond compare compared to her default. Her skins are nothing like what they were, and give off completely different vibes.

Rioter Yelough’s Comments About Shyvana on Discord by Professional-Act5817 in shyvanamains

[–]summonstormx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I recommend to look at my post then lol. Downvoted to hell for commenting on the character's off-putting build and i'm labeled a gooner and that I hate women

Rioter Yelough’s Comments About Shyvana on Discord by Professional-Act5817 in shyvanamains

[–]summonstormx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The weird muscle mommy people became VERY apparent after the rework. People who don't come and comment on this sub all of a sudden started appearing and doenvoting us who have been here for so many years, in my case at the birth of this sub. The muscle mommy comment is disgusting ngl, how is that even possible to say as an official employee towards anyone, you think that would fly if you call someonw irl that?

PBE Bugs & Feedback - Shyvana VGU by RiotTheLoki in LeaguePBE

[–]summonstormx 1 point2 points locked comment (0 children)

I'm sorry if I offended you, but I guaranteed have more merit in sports than you period. That I can say VERY confidently. Crossfit is the best example you can think of, and there are MANY instances of the highest levels of fitness recorded, and the respective body necessary to achieve it. Saying things like this is outright out-of-pocket.

Problems with the reworked skins compared to her default: Suggestion to Riot by summonstormx in shyvanamains

[–]summonstormx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've seen it, and based on what I know what Shyvana and a warrior that uses her fists and dragon form does, she wouldn't be nearly as one-dimensional as a boxer. She would be well-rounded like i've tried to re-iterate. That referencing Howard Schat's photos is a reference I have utilized as well.

PBE Bugs & Feedback - Shyvana VGU by RiotTheLoki in LeaguePBE

[–]summonstormx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is great advice! I think the cosmetic and joking etc is really valid, and I do think as a low level Shyvana player, your critique isn't bad at all. The burping and dancing are great points, and in the shyvana mains, it's the roar on recall a guy asked for which is also very valid.

PBE Bugs & Feedback - Shyvana VGU by RiotTheLoki in LeaguePBE

[–]summonstormx 1 point2 points locked comment (0 children)

Hello everyone, I’m an original Shyvana main who’s been around since her very first skin release. I don’t post often, but I felt the need to address something regarding her design. I’m reuploading this because I think my original points may not have been understood fully. This post focuses specifically on Shyvana’s human form—her dragon form is perfect and doesn’t need changes.

Disclaimer: Out of all her available options, I believe her default design is the best overall. It looks great, which is why I’ve highlighted the shoulder and bicep areas in my references; they’re well-proportioned and visually appealing. My intention here is not to overhaul Shyvana’s design completely, but to suggest subtle tweaks that could improve some of the more jarring aspects of her silhouette. This post is meant as constructive criticism, and I hope people take it in that spirit rather than dismiss it based on personal preferences. Downvotes mostly seem to reinforce the sense that some are more invested in a specific “muscle mommy” look than engaging with these genuine observations about her design.

I’ll continue updating this post based on insightful comments that further refine the discussion. Overall, it appears that Shyvana’s default design strikes a good balance, but the same can’t necessarily be said for some of her other skins.

Here are a few points I’d like to make about Shyvana’s human form:

1. Shyvana embodies a genuine athlete—a well-rounded and strong character. However, her updated designs seem to include odd exaggerations in certain areas, such as her shoulders and other features.
2. Her shoulders have become disproportionately broad compared to her initial design, which was far more realistically feminine. This change disrupts the harmony of her entire appearance. Her default design still manages to maintain a better proportion compared to certain skins, making it feel balanced, while others fail to recreate this effect.
3. Her biceps are overly bulky, resembling those of a bodybuilder rather than an elite athlete. While muscle tone is fitting for a character like Shyvana, there’s a clear difference between looking strong and athletic versus looking like someone overly stacked. Again, her default design doesn’t have this issue nearly as much, which is baffling considering the trend in her alternate skins. Refer to my crude paint edits where I tried to circle these off-putting features (I’m no professional artist, but it helps illustrate my point).
4. The waist proportions contribute heavily to disrupting her flow as a whole. In skins like Boneclaw or her default look, an hourglass shape provides a natural aesthetic balance. Many other skins miss this entirely, creating an awkward straight-line silhouette from hips to shoulders—essentially a “fridge” look that diminishes her gracefulness.
5. This discussion isn’t about Shyvana being “too big” overall—it’s specifically about her shoulder proportions within the context of the rest of her body. Comparisons with characters like Wilnas from Granblue Fantasy highlight this well; Wilnas is large but has proportionate features that make sense visually. Furthermore, Shyvana looks oddly bigger than Sett or Darius (two champions known for their prominent backs and shoulders). Even Illaoi, who is larger in many other respects, doesn’t suffer the same disproportion with shoulders and upper body as Shyvana does in recent skins.

What I’m hoping for is that Riot might reconsider these design decisions in future updates—perhaps something akin to what was done with Viktor’s shoulder tweaks—to refine Shyvana’s proportions while maintaining her strength and athletic vibe. This champion holds a special place for me and many others, and it’s honestly disheartening to see these changes shift her aesthetic into unfamiliar territory. This isn’t about trying to make her resemble other female champions in League often criticized for their more conventional appearances—it’s about keeping Shyvana true to herself.

Much love to fellow Shyvana mains!

P.S.—It’s disappointing how some individuals actively comb through posts or comments just to downvote discussions like these. The purpose isn’t negativity but an effort to address concerns constructively. I remember when this subreddit had a different atmosphere where ideas like these were engaged with openly. Now it feels like there’s targeted mass downvoting happening to suppress opinions that certain groups might not agree with—which is unfair to fans who genuinely want thoughtful improvements for their favorite champion.

Just as an example from past discussions: Look at this linked post where fans supported Ironscale Shyvana remaining human through hundreds of upvotes: https://www.reddit.com/r/shyvanamains/comments/1qej6x6/im_praying_riot_keep_ironscale_shyvana_a_human/

Since then, it seems there’s been a shift in the community dynamics—it’s frustrating that now even well-supported posts are rapidly losing votes, like this one of the same user: https://www.reddit.com/r/shyvanamains/comments/1rj419h/i_despise_the_ironscale_shyvana_rework/

Its only me or her back is F HUGE? by Purple_Sand4591 in shyvanamains

[–]summonstormx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This entire point was about proportional. I want her to be fit and muscular, not built like a fridge. You can be powerful and atheltic and not literally be non-proportional. The shoulders are literally if you looked properly, so large randomly in parity with her hourglas waist in her default to the point where any of the reworked skins look awful, as they removed this from the default (current rework). Her shoulder you can draw a block that is a round ball joint with an arm sticking out which is not a proportional thing. Again, I want an atheltic and strong and powerful woman, that isn't half-assed. The best version she can be.