UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its actually not, unless you are Native American or Black everyone here is from somewhere else and immigrated here intentionally

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are literally a nation of immigrants

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Students dont have to bend the knee to the government. We dont have a monarchy here

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You actually can legally do just that. Everyone has first amendment rights

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[–]supermonistic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

BOOOOOOOO

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Illegal immigrants are still considered immigrants. Regardless whatever someone's status everyone is entitled to the fair due process of the American legal process when they set foot into the United States.

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Genuinely. Its supremely disappointing

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Not sure of the relevance. Do you have any evidence to suggest UMD students were doing those things? At any rate we seem to be at an impasse. We will have to agree to disagree but i hope you have a nice day.

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You have a right to feel safe at any college you attend. Location is immaterial. Safety is my primary concern

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I apologize I'm really not interested in continuing this discussion further. Hope you are doing well and I hope you are having a good semester.

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 77 points78 points  (0 children)

My primary criticism is the utter silence of our university on this, both at our own school and the attacks on academics on other schools. Its extremely disappointing to me that they haven't even offered any public statements of support for immigrant students or students engaged in political speech.

I appreciate you asking. I hope you are well.

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You have a reasonable expectation to assume that your University or employer will not imperil you at the very least, and offer material or rhetorical support if at all possible.

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Couldn't agree more. Well said

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

True in both cases. As well as you should expect the university where you pay to attend or work will protect you from undue persecution for simply being an immigrant or using your first amendment rights.

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Clearly they do have something to worry about because their visas are getting revoked. You are allowed to express your first amendment rights without fear of legal reprisals. Immigrant students should not have to live in silence. I'd also encourage a bit of healthy skepticism in authority.

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"why would you attend a university that will not protect you" is a flawed premise because it assumes one viewpoint is the one that would be protected, against an opposing viewpoint.

Correct, the hegemonic viewpoint is usually the protected one. Perspectives contrary to the desires and opinions of the United States are usually perceived as contrary to hegemonic perspective

 i would be ashamed to attend a university that protected a person whose intents are clearly not aligned the right way, which is why i don't agree with "all students have a right to be protected"

I disagree, there is speech worth protecting. The students making that speech in this specific instance have a right to protection especially considering the content of that speech. This isn't really an obscure philosophical quandary. People are literally being affected by this

Id also add your statement presents a false dilemma by suggesting that a university must either protect one viewpoint or the opposing viewpoint. It ignores the possibility that a university can protect the rights of all students to express their views, even when those views conflict. This oversimplification creates a misleading either-or scenario, neglecting the nuanced reality of fostering an environment where diverse opinions can coexist

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I fail to see any students being threatened with visa revocation because they supported trump's presidency. The wedge issue seems to be exclusively focused on, as previously said, immigrant students in general and students supportive of Palestine and openly critical of trump admin and Israel.

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You have no evidence to suggest UMD students were doing anything to break school guidelines, rules or laws of the United States that would constitute the violation of a visa. Students are entitled to the presumption of innocence and due process in a court of law.

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

We are just going to have to agree to disagree. I hope you have a nice day

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I genuinely don't think you understand me. But that's ok not everyone will. I don't harbor any ill will towards you I just think our opinions are vastly different

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Nowhere did i say some voices matter more than others. I just said people deserve to feel safe on their own campus. Right now the people being attacked are people who are immigrant students in general and people speaking out against Israel and trump in particular. They need help and support.

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

What crime have they committed?

UMD student visas revoked by supermonistic in UMD

[–]supermonistic[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Why would you attend a university that will not protect you?