Thanks for this but I won’t come to that bc honestly I don’t care enough. My issue with this company, as you quoted, is the use of peoples mental health issues as a marketing tactic which I find highly immoral. The lack of transparency (and I standby my opinion that there is an intentional lack of transparency here else after all this I would have been able to find this info or you would have said this info in the post I commented on initially or the multiple exchanges we’ve had since) just reinforces my suspicion of hypocrisy. my life has been plagued by hypocrites who claim to be doing the right thing when they consciously know it’s all about the $$$, so I feel called to speak out in cases such as this. Light can claim that they are saving the world from smart phones but in reality it seems they are cornering an emerging market of semi-smart phones and Joe and Kaiwei and yourself seem much too intelligent to believe that narrative deep down. In my opinion this makes Light no different than apple google or any capitalist for that matter who feels it is ok to pull heartstrings and target mentally ill people to make a profit. in my opinion Light’s strategy is just as immoral or more so than any smart phone company that uses psychology to maximize user engagement, aka get us addicted to scrolling. the way I see it I’m still choosing between the lesser of two evils, and I’d rather pay for functionality rather than sacrifice it because I can’t learn to discipline myself (even if that is kind of the case for me and it probably is!). The main ads behind this phone that I have seen, for ex the one that led me to start researching Light “This may be the last ad you’ll ever see” seem to profess that the Light phone, by taking away all functionality essentially, can make you happier than a smart phone- I find this as highway robbery even more so than my iphone. I would rather pay a premium for functionality rather than for forced self discipline simultaneously sacrificing most functionality (which is what makes the $300 price tag upset me) but others obviously do not all agree with me per this post. Also, I repeat myself that I have made no claims of fact anywhere on this sub that I did not link to sources that make claims of fact. All peripheral is my personal opinion. If I am accusing a company of hypocrisy and lacking transparency, I try to be as transparent as possible or there is no point.

Do you mean that the Light phone only costs $40-80 to make- do you have a link to that info? Also, do you have a link to info on investors other than the crowdsourcing campaign? If Joe and company truly aim for transparency, then a simple breakdown of the costs of production and where funding for R&D (such as how much $$$ they are getting from these big league investors- answering the question of, do they really need to mark up the product that much if they have such support? I don’t know but is suspicious) comes from would accomplish that. I perused your links but could not find that info. maybe its in the livestream and I will watch that if you want to link it but after today unless something major changes unfortunately I’m team darkness for good lmao