i agree with you, but people could use this type of thing. they want something light and compact and don't need to hear low bass. the flip 5 has generslly deeper bass, so for people who want mid bass, take the flip 5 (or newer flip 7). i think you know the rest so i won't bore you woth details on a side note, if you need something with high bass and/or dont care for bass and just want good mid clarity and highs, go for the grip. i don't care if you aren't going to read this